Skip to comments.How does Mozilla make their money?
Posted on 04/04/2014 8:12:08 PM PDT by fwdude
Just wanted to get up to speed on how these outfits operate, from people in the know. Banners? Clicks? What?
Ads... and apparently now AIDS
Simple ... advertising, advertising that Adblock defeats. LOL!
In 2011 Mozilla had a revenue of US$163.5 million, with 85% of this sum from Google. Google pays them to set Google as the default search engine in Firefox.
Follow the dollar. Google is pro-extinctionist.
So no google. Use bing?
Mozilla would dry-up if it weren’t for Google.
What happens if everyone changed their default to Scroogle or duck duck go! Search engines?
Bing is MS, use Scroogle or Duck Duck Go
>>So no google. Use bing?
There’s little ideological difference between the two companies, but personally I do think Google is more extreme left than MS.
The search results are also just about the same, but I prefer the Bing layout. So I switched to Bing about 6 months ago and have no plans to switch back.
There’s also Ixquick.
Mozilla, the MSNBC of internet browsers.
Except that Firefox works...
It leaks memory, and it's kinda a memory-hog — I wish they'd have used Ada or Eiffel in their rewrite.
Ada — known for its use in safety-critical systems, has a reputation for high-reliability systems because of its type-system.
Eiffel — Known for being the preeminent Design-by-Contract language, giving a lot of thought to interfaces.
DuckDuckGo, for those who don’t want their searches stored/tracked.
It looks like that number almost doubled in 2012.
just switched over to Opera to give it a go and it seems to work just fine... has a debugger built in and has add-ons like ghostery and lastpass for those that use them.
Ixquick.com is probable the most private search engine now.
Firefox with privacy add-ons is best browser I have found. I even can get Google blocking add-ons (Google disconnect). Facebook ad blocks that work (no ads for me). Twitter blocks. Just a whole slew of great ways to customize it to tailor even this ole privacy nut.
Google pays them to set Google as the default search engine in Firefox.
I have now switched to Opera, at the suggestion of a FReeper on a thread this week about the Gaystapo’s forcing Mozilla’s CEO to resign.
So far, so good, however, I cannot get rid of “Google” even though I thought I had uninstalled. It pops up on the page every time. Not the least bit tech savvy, so could you please help. Thanks.
I use DuckDuckGo now because they do not follow you.
So does Safari, Opera, IE, Chrome, Rock Melt. I’m sure they all support SS marriage as a company, but I haven’t heard of anyone being canned from these companies for something they did 6 years ago that was perfectly legal and in-line with what Obama believed at the time.
I'll give you that it's a memory hog, sometimes taking up a half gig depending on how many tabs I have open. However, FF hasn't "leaked memory" in years. A TRUE memory leak is one where RAM is consistently lost to the process until the process either locks up or the system crashes. The last iteration of FF I can recall that had that problem was way back in the FF15 days, and that was due almost solely to poorly-written add-ons and extensions.
FF is it's own process. It has no hooks in the OS, hence its utility on almost any platform, and it runs independently of the OS kernel including its own certificate stores, Java kernel bucket, and application rail. FF is a safer, more stable browser than IE and while it's not as streamlined as Chrome, it's much better at error handling. FF is a memory hog, because you're essentially running a mini-OS over top of your OS kernel.
Mozilla mostly makes their money through advertising. Given their profile in the open source community, however, FF would continue to thrive even if Mozilla, as an entity, was at 1/10th its current value. Remember that Mozilla is a standard-bearer for much of the open source community. They're not a for profit entity, so their value isn't really at issue here, I believe.
Click on Opera logo at top left, select settings, third item down lets you choose default search engine.
It happens, really.
Try running it continuously for about a week with, say, 50 tabs open.
FF is a safer, more stable browser than IE and while it's not as streamlined as Chrome, it's much better at error handling.
I kinda don't care.
I don't want to measure crap with other crap (relative stability), I want solid, absolute stability like that which formal methods can deliver (i.e. provably bug-free).
Remember that Mozilla is a standard-bearer for much of the open source community. They're not a for profit entity, so their value isn't really at issue here, I believe.
I agree about the money /= value for the organization; however, being as it is standard-bearer for open-source they ought to consider using formal methods rather than infinite-updates as their tool for ensuring quality.
50 TABS?! That’s incredible. I’ve never seen that many tabs open in my entire career as an IT engineer. I’m surprised it would run for more than 5 minutes let alone a week. My FF stays open between sleep (STR) sessions for 5 days and rarely eats up more than 400 MB.
If you want stable, try running any browser in “Privacy” mode where all add ons, browser plugins, etc. are disabled. It’s incredibly stable, regardless of browser, but it lacks function. Worst case, you could always go back to Lynx or Emacs.
If you're doing some research intensive stuff you can rack up three times that many following references around; especially if you want to "keep an eye" on where you get the papers you're investigating (some of them can be really difficult to find; like this paper).
If you want stable, try running any browser in Privacy mode where all add ons, browser plugins, etc. are disabled. Its incredibly stable, regardless of browser, but it lacks function. Worst case, you could always go back to Lynx or Emacs.
Lynx is pretty cool; it would handle a lot of my basic user-cases, that is research aside.
I am gonna look into this browser (Pale Moon), basically same as FF, but faster and still accepts the add-ons.
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