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To: rktman

So it’s normal to “wonder” if any person would be better off under slavery than on the government dole?

Which would you prefer?


10 posted on 04/26/2014 10:27:54 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

LOL! Contemplation apparently can get you labeled. He might have just as well advocated that all africanAmericans be rounded up and shipped to Mississippi (or any southern state, your choice) for enslavement.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 10:32:03 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonianfivehundrian)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles
Bundy was using a rhetorical device - exuscitatio or something like it.

I think its pretty clear he didn't intend his comparison to slavery to be taken literally.

43 posted on 04/26/2014 11:20:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles
That's a rhetorical question, but not analogous. It's intellectually disingenuous to compare the 2 in simple terms. This is why Bundy got heat; he's a simple man and used the terms he best understood. It's to the rest of us to discern his intent intellectually, not emotionally.

This guy wrote it better than I:

http://www.examiner.com/article/cliven-bundy-racist-not

Cliven Bundy is not a wealthy man. He is not an educated man. He has not had decades in the practiced art of prevarication that is the Left's stock in trade - in fact one of the only things the Left does well. He is a simple man who simply expresses his opinion, without careful word crafting, without considering that there is an entire industry out there with nothing better to do than put his words under a microscope so they can misrepresent them for their own unscrupulous purposes.

In fact, Bundy was trying to say what many have said for decades, i.e. that the Left has created a nightmare for the black community, and that many blacks are much worse off today than they were before the great liberal welfare experiment of the 1960s. The welfare state is primarily responsible for destroying the nuclear black family, and endemic crime, drug addiction and unemployment are the direct result. Prior to President Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" welfare expansion, the unemployment rate for young blacks was lower than that for whites. Out of wedlock pregnancies were a fraction of what they are now, and crime and drug addiction, while problematic in inner cities, were nowhere near today's levels.

Democratic politicians justify the burgeoning welfare state as reflecting compassion for the “poor and oppressed,” but the fact is that the Left created the welfare state deliberately and specifically to capture the minority vote forever. The infamous socialist authors of the "Crisis Strategy," Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, had much to do with this, and they admitted as much, saying, “If organizers can deliver millions of dollars in cash benefits to the ghetto masses, it seems reasonable to expect that the masses will deliver their loyalties to their benefactors.” It worked. In 1960, only 58 percent of black voters were Democrats. By 1968, 92 percent were Democrats and only three percent were Republicans.

In 1961, Cloward co-founded an experimental welfare program called "Mobilization for Youth." Presidents Kennedy and Johnson used his model to envision a massive federal infrastructure that would both fund leftwing activism and buy off minorities. What followed was President Johnson’s “War on Poverty,” and the Office of Economic Opportunity created to implement it. OEO financed "10,000 organizations employing several hundred thousand people” to radically transform U.S. policy outside the political process, according to conservative activist Howard Phillips, who ran OEO in 1973. He identified Cloward and Piven as OEO’s “ideological architects.”

If you have not read Cloward and Piven's treatise on the Crisis strategy, you should do so now.


62 posted on 04/26/2014 1:50:34 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

I pity the ignorant fool that knows so little of Man and his history as to think slaves of government are better off than slaves of persons.


66 posted on 04/26/2014 2:05:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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