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Mark Steyn: Donald Sterling’s remarks were bad, but what the NBA is doing is much worse
National Post ^ | April 30, 2014 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/30/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by rickmichaels

Three years ago, I wrote in National Review:

Let us accept for the sake of argument that racism is bad, that homophobia is bad, that Islamophobia is bad, that offensive utterances are bad, that mean-spirited thoughts are bad. So what?

As bad as they are, the government’s criminalizing all of them and setting up an enforcement regime in the interests of micro-regulating us into compliance is a thousand times worse. Likewise, as bad as Donald Sterling is, what the NBA is doing is a thousand times worse:

“The views expressed by Mr. Sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. That they came from an NBA owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage,” [Commissioner Adam] Silver said. “I am banning Mr. Sterling for life from any association with the Clippers association or the NBA. Mr. Sterling may not attend any NBA games or practices, he may not be present at any Clippers facility, and he may not participate in any business or decisions involving the team.”

Everyone seems to agree that Sterling is a racist and always has been: He said he wouldn’t rent apartments to blacks because they smell; and he has referred to the players of his Los Angeles Clippers as “niggers”. All this has apparently been widely known for years, although not so well known that the NAACP hasn’t lavished multiple awards on him, including his now hastily canceled Lifetime Achievement Award. Which seems odd.

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1 posted on 04/30/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: All

Why not a geriatric basketball team? What is wrong with that? Are you some kind of Gerontophobic?


2 posted on 04/30/2014 4:30:52 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: rickmichaels

“As bad as they are, the government’s criminalizing all of them and setting up an enforcement regime in the interests of micro-regulating us into compliance is a thousand times worse.”

Classic straw man by Steyn. Looks like NBA can do whatever they want to their individual franchises. If Sterling does not like it, he can start his own Basketball association.


3 posted on 04/30/2014 4:32:55 PM PDT by sagar
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To: rickmichaels

If this whole incident were a western then what has happened is that the cowardly sheriff has scuttled out the back door of the office leaving behind the keys and a rope. The NBA is run by the saloon sotted mob while the thieves in their midst rifle the lynch victims pockets for ownership papers to his personal business. Silver, such a rich name for a character constructed solely from base metal.


4 posted on 04/30/2014 4:35:44 PM PDT by Holdem Or Foldem (Life isn't fair, so wear a cup.)
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To: sagar
Classic straw man by Steyn.

Uh, actually, no, he just used that as an example, and stated that he still thought it was a bad idea by the NBA.

5 posted on 04/30/2014 4:38:02 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: rickmichaels

I was tired of the Donald Stirling story within five seconds of first hearing it. I admit proudly that I have no idea what he said, except that it was outrageously offensive. I don’t know because I don’t care.

I will accept it as a given that he said lots of repugnant things to his mistress. So what? Why does that mean that the NBA has to strip him of his private property? Why then must he pay a multi-million dollar fine?

The only person harmed by his statement was his mistress, and all he owes her is an apology. Why do his private comments require millions of his dollars to be transferred to the racial grievance industry? What have they done to deserve this money?

Frankly, I think the NBA is making a huge mistake. If they are going to set themselves up as arbiters of the appropriateness of everything said in private moments by executives and owners of NBA teams, they are going to wind up handing down an awful lot of fines. And, of course, then they will become responsible for everything that is said. After all, if you control the speech, you are responsible for what is said.


6 posted on 04/30/2014 4:38:58 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: rickmichaels

It seems the leftists are being judgmental...something they tell us we should not do.


7 posted on 04/30/2014 4:39:19 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: rickmichaels

A hair’s width away from having thought police.

I want every black in the NBA who is doing to back flips and condemning the man for speaking freely in his own home to answer this question honestly: have you ever use the words “honky” or “whitey” or had a conversation about “those white people?” If so, then you should quit the NBA IMMEDIATELY. If Sterling is racist then so are you.


8 posted on 04/30/2014 4:40:25 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: rickmichaels

Rush today: “You can find eight NBA players and one coach, a total of nine men who have hooked up with 55 women and produced 72 children over the past few years with no marriages involved. This is also the NBA.


9 posted on 04/30/2014 4:40:37 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: rickmichaels

This entire affair reeks of Barry, Holder & Co.


10 posted on 04/30/2014 4:42:11 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

This entire affair reeks of Barry, Holder & Co.


The kenyan has released a totalitarian genie on our society. They don’t even have to be directly involved to have a massive effect on discourse.


11 posted on 04/30/2014 4:50:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: rickmichaels

Secretly recorded(?) by his soon to be ex-GF and he’s pilloried?


12 posted on 04/30/2014 4:54:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: rickmichaels

Isn’t the NBA logo racist? It shows a white guy. Aren’t most NBA players black? Racist statement???


13 posted on 04/30/2014 4:55:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Haiku Guy

+1

Well, said. This is about the race baiting crew building momentum to destroy any white person they can.


14 posted on 04/30/2014 5:04:02 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Haiku Guy
I'm sickened because this guy was SECRETLY recorded, then punished for what he said in private.

Sure there's the racist crap he did 30 years ago, but no, the issue now is this recording that is giving people the vapors.

For all of the howler monkeys crying about "yeah, there's free speech, but that doesn't absolve you of the consequences of your speech."

Now THAT is a false argument. This is NOT a Dixie Chicks moment, where Stirling got up in front of fans and said this.

It was a private conversation, illegally obtained, and leaked to the press. Not in any way related to his position as an NBA team owner.

The one analogy I can think of is grandpa getting drunk at Thanksgiving and going on some rant about "the Jews".

Offensive, sure.

But the point is he didn't make it in public. Nor as part of any public function.

This is thoughtcrime.

15 posted on 04/30/2014 5:17:36 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: rickmichaels

For the (many) conspiracy nuts here on FR. Which includes me, of course:

Assume Sterling is a smart old Fox.
Assume he wants to sell the Clippers
Assume his girlfriend needs $50 million or so just to keep up her lifestyle.
Assume they conspire to make the recording and release it to the press.

Now you are probably assuming that all this bad publicity would knock the socks off the value of the Clippers. You may even think this is a Magic Johnson ploy to get the Clippers on the cheap.

But we Conspiracy Nuts (CNs) don’t buy that theory. We think that the Clippers are now much more valuable than they were a week ago. And why would that be, you ask?

Here is why:
The collection of greedy NBA team owners are desperate to get rid of Sterling.

The NBA Commisioner is desperate to get rid of Sterling.

The fans are desperate to get rid of Sterling..

The media is desperate to get rid of Sterling.

Sterling is not desperate at all. And he has a price in mind. And that price is a lot higher than last weeks market value.

He will get his price and so will the girlfriend.


16 posted on 04/30/2014 5:22:30 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Haiku Guy
... I have no idea what he said, except that it was outrageously offensive. I don’t know because I don’t care.

I don't care either.

I don't follow the Clippers (or NBA at all) but I did see that the team won a playoff game last night. Must be an exciting series, I didn't see any empty seats in whatever stadium they were playing.

Now just think about that for a second - the Clippers, like all NBA teams are mostly black athletes. Apparently they don't care what Sterling said either, they all showed up for work and did their best for him.

The fans obviously don't care either, they filled the stadium up, bought their overpriced concessions and cheered for their team, just like always.

So why should I care?

17 posted on 04/30/2014 5:35:48 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: boop

The Obama campaign got a lot of mileage in 2012 over a comment Mitt Romney made in private which was overheard and, if I remember correctly, recorded by a Democrat who happened to be within earshot.


18 posted on 04/30/2014 5:47:16 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Lee'sGhost
In this country it is not permitted to say something offensive about African Americans, at least not if you have money or a job that you may be deprived of. The next step will be prison terms for saying things offensive to black people, as interpreted by them or by the media (an innocent remark would be actionable if a derogatory meaning could be somehow squeezed out of it).

But people will still be free to say insulting things about white Americans and other groups. Maybe not about gays.

19 posted on 04/30/2014 5:52:52 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Haiku Guy

If the NBA wants to be fair, they are probably going to have to require that all owners submit tapes for all their phone conversations to the NBA. It is certainly unfair that Sterling gets punished simply because someone taped his conversations, when we have no idea if the other owners are saying the same or worse.


20 posted on 04/30/2014 7:03:14 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Verginius Rufus
Gov Web Bots To Scour Internet for Hate Speech: “Could Potentially Criminalize Thoughts and Expressions”
21 posted on 04/30/2014 7:27:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: JLS

Steyn ping.


22 posted on 04/30/2014 7:42:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: boop

> I’m sickened because this guy was SECRETLY recorded, then punished for what he said in private.

It was recorded for profit and I wonder how much MJ paid his girlfriend to set him up.


23 posted on 04/30/2014 7:44:11 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: rickmichaels
Everyone seems to agree that Sterling is a racist and always has been: He said he wouldn’t rent apartments to blacks because they smell; and he has referred to the players of his Los Angeles Clippers as “niggers”. All this has apparently been widely known for years, although not so well known that the NAACP hasn’t lavished multiple awards on him, including his now hastily canceled Lifetime Achievement Award. Which seems odd.

Sad to see Steyn dealing in rumors and consensus, too, so he can pile on the bandwagon.

24 posted on 04/30/2014 7:51:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rickmichaels

...although not so well known that the NAACP hasn’t lavished multiple awards on him,...

Doesn’t Steyn mean to say “has” rather than “hasn’t”, and what’s with all the other incorrect words in the article?


25 posted on 04/30/2014 7:53:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
This morning on "Fox & Friends" they discussed a tweet from someone at GQ magazine to the effect that Don Sterling could get a show at Fox.

Of course Sterling is a Democrat and a billionaire, but the intended message was that Fox and conservatives generally are racists.

Of course FNC is not really conservative, but the fact that they include some conservatives in their lineup means that the mainstream media and the Democratic Party regard them as conservative.

26 posted on 05/01/2014 7:22:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


27 posted on 05/02/2014 8:52:25 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Haiku Guy
If they are going to set themselves up as arbiters of the appropriateness of everything said in private moments by executives and owners of NBA teams, they are going to wind up handing down an awful lot of fines.

That would be true if the NBA enforced their new thought-crime policies in an even manner. But they won't.

28 posted on 05/02/2014 9:13:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: JLS

The precedent set by this is rather alarming. They chose Sterling, whose statements on record prior to this make it very hard to defend him.

The question is who is next? There are hints of going after Amazon for publishing non goodthink books. I also expect other exec’s to be purged, and for it to drop down to the lower levels (which means most of us here).

If they can take your privately owned business from you for private statements, we are no longer a free capitalist system.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 9:33:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: sickoflibs; Liz
Let us accept for the sake of argument that racism is bad, that homophobia is bad, that Islamophobia is bad, that offensive utterances are bad, that mean-spirited thoughts are bad. So what?

As bad as they are, the government’s criminalizing all of them and setting up an enforcement regime in the interests of micro-regulating us into compliance is a thousand times worse.

ping

30 posted on 05/02/2014 11:29:42 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: abb; MrB
Let us accept for the sake of argument that racism is bad, that homophobia is bad, that Islamophobia is bad, that offensive utterances are bad, that mean-spirited thoughts are bad. So what?

As bad as they are, the government’s criminalizing all of them and setting up an enforcement regime in the interests of micro-regulating us into compliance is a thousand times worse.

ping

31 posted on 05/02/2014 11:31:51 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

None of those “bad” things have the legal use of deadly force to back them up.
Anything the gov’t does has the legal use of deadly force behind it.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 11:33:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Anything the gov’t does has the legal use of deadly force behind it.

Yes... did you hear about parking meter maids (what we call them in Florida) wanting their own SWAT Teams? Seems they're tired of citizens saying they were just about to put the quarter in the meter...

33 posted on 05/02/2014 4:28:44 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: blam
I hate you...

/s

Did I need to shut that off?

Should I call my attorney?

Should I write another one sentence paragraph?

34 posted on 05/03/2014 7:15:53 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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