Skip to comments.Microsoft rescues XP users with emergency browser fix
Posted on 05/01/2014 10:50:49 AM PDT by dayglored
Microsoft is helping the estimated hundreds of millions of customers still running Windows XP, which it stopped supporting earlier this month, by providing an emergency update to fix a critical bug in its Internet Explorer browser.
Microsoft Corp rushed to create the fix after learning of the bug in the operating system over the weekend when cybersecurity firm FireEye Inc warned that a sophisticated group of hackers had exploited the bug to launch attacks in a campaign dubbed "Operation Clandestine Fox.
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Ya think it had something to do with the US and UK governments tell people officially to stop using Internet Explorer???
"The operating system that would not die!!"
I'm honestly not sure whether to consider this good news, bad news, or just news. Have at it, FReepers...
Made ‘em blink...
It is bad press for them.
Grandma and Grandpa and computer illiterate aunts and uncles and so on... are being told that they need to buy a new computer or else. Expensive for most. They won’t understand.
MS made billions off of their products and the loyal customers who followed them and a large percentage are still running XP.
Count me as one of them - but I did switch my browser to FireFox.
Adobe is also at fault. If you don’t have the patch, it is sufficient to disable the Flash plugin.
Well, much as I hate Flash, and consider it a security hole on roller skates all by itself, in this case it only happens to be the vector by which the real flaw in IE is activated. There's nothing inherently wrong with Flash in this particular regard. Disabling the plugin removes the path by which the bad guys get to the real vulnerability.
Speaking of Adobe, it’s a good idea to avoid their PDF reader (even though they invented the format and the computer language it relies upon) in favor of just about any other one. It’s too heavy and complex, and that has lead to security holes in the past. You need to be able to fetch PDFs into your browser seamlessly and without worrying that you are about to be pwned.
1. Buy an new computer.
2. Roll the dice and hope that your computer and ALL of its hardware is compatible with “crappy” win 8. And if it is, then be prepared to fork out $120 per computer.
And by the way, your old programs may not natively run under win 8. So, you'll have to set up a Virtual XP PC which may or may not work reliably.
I also have a Mac that runs Windows 8 on a Parallel Desk Top.
Everything I need to work with is on both. When the XP computer goes TU I’ll chunk it and start working on the other one.
Downloaded and applied to XP SP3.
My 4 year old Ipad is almost obsolete and I can't run most of the apps on it any more. The OS (and hardware) are obsolete.
So, in that respect, I guess MS is better? :)
I’m so low tech I have to keep asking my daughter which iPhone I’ve got.
My wife and Daughter just got their iPhones and I think they’re one step ahead of mine.
I know just enough to get my stuff to do what I want it to - anything else and I call one of the kids over.
But it means they have to keep you upgrading your hardware, buying new hardware, every few years.
I've got some perfectly functional 8 year old Apple hardware, that runs the OLD software just fine. But I can't upgrade the software any more.
It's not in their business interest to allow their latest and greatest software to run on old hardware. They need you to buy new hardware fairly regularly.
Does that make Microsoft "better"? Well, ask their hardware partners... the ones who have been dying in droves.
And if you invest the hours, weeks, and months learning about it, it will all be obsolete in a couple of years.
But that is all part of the plan — make you buy a new widget every couple of years or so. It is called planned obsolescence.
Hardware partners? They probably love Apple. They get to sell everyone a new Iphone every couple of years. Planned obsolescence?
Also, it gets expensive having to buy a new $500 Iphone, Ipad and whatever every couple of years.
I will remember this the next time I am due to upgrade my smart phone. So far we have been using Android and our phones are three years old. They'll probably die before they become obsolete.
Crossing my fingers. Knocking on wood.
The ones that are dying because Microsoft hasn't come out with a truly great, compelling operating system in a decade other than Windows 7, and arguably that is still being upstaged by the un-dead, Refuses-To-Die WinXP.
I applaud Microsoft for supporting XP that long. They had every right to kill support a long time ago if they wanted to. But they were forced to yield to the marketplace of users and businesses who demanded continued support.
Unfortunately, they didn't come out with anything (other than Win7) that could hold a candle to XP for simple usefulness.
And their hardware partners are dead, dead, dead. They were subsisting on tiny margins because of the race-to-the-bottom of PC hardware prices, and then the combination of Vista and Win8, at the same time Apple was bringing out the iPhone/iPad family, dropped the bottom out entirely.
And then Microsoft comes out with Surface. Geez, it's a wonder that the PC hardware makers didn't burn Redmond to the ground.
Yep. It's a known drawback of buying Apple's stuff. Limited upgrade life.
The upside? It's got a long useful lifetime, and typically very high resale value. During its lifetime it's generally dependable and just works.
For many people, that's the better deal. Ain't a free market with choices just dandy? :)
Just last night I saw a commercial that touted PCMatic’s ability to “support WinXP which MS has abandoned.” Or words to that effect. What’s up with that? Not that I want to use XP in the future—my non-Apple machines use Win7 64-bit which I like.
“Downloaded and applied to XP SP3.”
Where did you find the link to the download? I’m on XP and need to do this. Thanks!
Start -—> Control Panel ——> Security Center -—> Check for latest updates....
My kids don’t seem to have any problems with Apple Tech.
I think they absorb it while they’re sleeping.
PC-Matic is a "maintenance" package that does various anti-virus, registry-cleaning, and other general system tasks. It gets good reviews, generally.
HOWEVER, it does NOT provide security patches and updates for Windows or any Windows components such as Internet Explorer or Microsoft Office.
They're just doing some fancy marketing (read: white lies) by implying that they're picking up where Microsoft left off. It's not true.
> Not that I want to use XP in the futuremy non-Apple machines use Win7 64-bit which I like.
Windows 7 is terrific. I think it's the best OS Microsoft has ever put out.
Oh; I did that earlier today. I thought there might be something else. Thanks so much!
What's an iPhone? I still use a rotary phone.
If your computer will run XP, it will run Windows 7 with no problem. No need to buy a new computer.
Not a fully official Apple Mac Ping, but they are talking about Apple products and some of you may have Windows XP on a Virtual PC on your Macs, so what the heck. . . PING!
Why? My daughter is running my hand-me-down four year old iPad without problems. It runs the apps suitable for it and most of the apps on the App Store. My ex-wife was running my SEVEN year old iPhone original model until two months ago with the original battery. . . still going strong! Alternatively, I just installed Apple OSX.9 Mavericks, the latest Mac operating system, on my SEVEN YEAR OLD 24" iMac with no problems. Works faster than it did with the OSX4 Tiger it shipped with. . . and it's running Windows 8.1 as well. It's not obsolete at all.
Yeah, good call. I imagine there are a lot of us with Mac hardware running Windows (including XP) in BootCamp, not to mention VMware, Parallels, VirtualBox, etc.
In fact, I have a harder time these days justifying putting Windows on bare metal (other than as dual boot like BootCamp). I rarely need raw-metal peripheral access (virtualized access is like 99% effective), and when I do, I tend to use the BootCamp partition.
On the other hand I have also found that older Apple hardware that no longer can be upgraded with the latest Apple software is still perfectly suitable for installing Windows on the metal. When I'm forced to upgrade to newer Apple hardware, the older hardware continues to serve just fine with Redmond's offerings.
Only it isn't that “free” sometimes.
My original iPad is running fine, no problems at all.
It must depend on which apps you are using.
Apple is inherently easier. That was and is their big advantage.
Anyway, xfinity defaults to an old app and I think the message was that that app was could soon be obsoleted. I can still log in via the web browser but that is a bit of a pain.
There were a couple of other apps that were giving me problems, too. Drudge? Brietbart? Actually, I was surprised to find out that I had to pay for the ipad apps whereas they are free on my android.
I checked the Internet for a solution and found a lot of angry and irate people. The posts were from a year ago.
Xfinity didn’t work for me. Complained that I needed the iosx6?
I have a pretty old high end video card. Probably from 2004? The mb is probably 5 years old.
My other mb is newer and the mb is more current.
Also, I am running Vegas Video with a specific version of .net. I am wondering if it will work.
I guess that I can run the compatibility check.
Also, is win 7 an option? I thought that MS were directing everyone to win 8.1.
Not so. My 4-year-old iPad 1 is still being used daily by my wife. It is far from obsolete. Same goes for my iPad 2. MS is definitely worse. One of the reasons I primarily use my Macs and iPads is that I got tired of all the viruses and patch-fixes on my MS-based PCs. I still use Windows XP, both on a desktop and in a Parallels virtual setup on my Mac. When Windows croaks (as it often does), I can simply copy a backup file into place for Parallels. My Mac OSX has never croaked. Neither have my iPads. I'm a former Windows and NT administrator, with a lot of experience fixing Windows (including training at Microsoft). So unless you have had some equivalent training from Apple, then why should anyone listen to you?
I too am one of them still using XP one machine, the one I am using now as I type. I downloaded the fix today too. I have two other machines running Windows 7, but am slow to get used to it, having run XP for so many years. Windows 7 does not have the ‘feel’ of XP and many things seem different.
After I transfer everything from this machine to one of the newer ones, including all my Outlook files, I will be using one of the ‘7’ machines.
Btw, I need help to know how to transfer the Outlook files. I would welcome suggestions on the know how. These files are in Office 2007 and I am going to Office 2010 on the newer machine. I could upgrade this to 2010 if it would make the transfer easier.
Sure they’ll understand. Explain that it’s like having an old car that you can’t get parts, oil, battery, etc for: run it as long as you can, but when it breaks ain’t nobody interested in fixing it.
I didn’t expect to be doing this tonight, but I just put a discarded 20GB hard drive with XP service pack 1 on it, into one of my machines.
I got past the Admin password and am now admin, and now will try to go with service pack 3, but I don’t know if Microsoft update will require a license number.
That's a different situation. The technology simply didn't exist for streaming video in the earlier iPhones. . . or iOS. . . that Xfinity takes advantage of to stream their signal. Nor was it in the original iPad. That was a later development in the graphic ability and band width capabilities. The hardware couldn't support it.
If by Outlook files you mean your mail and offline folders, upgrading won’t make any difference since there is no file format change. The files are normally in a subdirectory of your profile on the C:\ drive (next to your Documents) It is a hidden file so you need to enable viewing hidden and or system files in your Explorer. Find the folder with “filename.pst” file(s) in it and move all of the contents to the new install in the same location. BTW in the same directory tree with the .pst files you will also find other office files like your custom dictionary, signature files, and address book.
“Alternatively, I just installed Apple OSX.9 Mavericks, the latest Mac operating system, on my SEVEN YEAR OLD 24” iMac with no problems. Works faster than it did with the OSX4 Tiger it shipped with. “
Any time I have updated the OS on my Mac the computer ran faster. When I updated the OS on my PC the computer slowed down.
The issue is support for older hardware and that is the manufacturer's responsibility. It wouldn't be surprising that, for example, a video card mfgr not write new win 7 drivers for an 8 year old video card (after is “discontinued”). Now if you can use the xp drivers in Win7 then it should be okay. But that doesn't always work as promised.
My old raid mother board might not have the needed drivers and will probably default to some generic functionality.
BTW, I am not interested in streaming. I am only interested in reading my email. I can probably find other email apps but I like the one from xfinity.
BTW, my android cell phone is 3 years old and the xfinity app runs great on it. And it is free! Also, I am finding that many apps that are free on android cost from Apple.
It is all about supply and demand.
There are very profitable companies that supply parts for 80 year, 90 year old cars. I own a 1929 model A ford and have no problems finding parts for it. Even original parts.
Why? Because there is a demand for it. Because there is a business justification for it.
Now, lets consider XP. Apparently 20% of all PCs are still running it. That is probably 10s of millions of computers. I wouldn't mind paying a fee for continued support. Even if the fee ended up being more than the cost of the upgrade (over time). I suspect most people would agree.
The real question is “would MS be willing to offer the source code to a third party.” My guess would be no way, no how. Because there are probably features in XP that are in Win7 and Win8. So, would MS be willing to support XP for a fee? Apparently not.