[FreeInWV]

A couple of interesting things here:

First, all of the police were dismissed and replaced by Kiev's hand-picked civil activists. What does history tell us about this tactics?

Second, a MI-24 (HIND-D) helicopter was shot down. What purpose does such an aircraft have policing protestors??? I mean really! That is an armored heavy attach helicopter. I am also wondering who shot it down? It wasn't a MANPAD and they were designed to be resistant to .50 cal fire.

[FreeInWV]

More from Janes...

http://www.janes.com/article/37330/two-ukrainian-mi-24s-shot-down-by-manpads

[tcrlaf]

Actually, TWO helicopters were downed today.

Video of the Mi-24 downing shows a STUPID PILOT, that hovered for a long time at less than 100 feet, until it was hit in the rear by an RPG at close range.
That is the one that crashed in the river.

[Corporate Democrat]

Maybe the protestors shot down the helicopters? If helicopters keep dropping out of the sky like this I might not want to call them protestors anymore.

[tcrlaf]

Ukraine: 4 troops killed by pro-Russian militiamen in Slovyansk, 30 wounded
http://wapo.st/1q760GP

EuroMaidanPR has started posting Death cards from the fighting. A VERY high percentage of Kiev soldiers being killed are OFFICERS.

[Nachoman]

Someone please break this down for me. Is the Ukrainian military pro-new government or pro-old government? Are the protesters Russian secessionists, pro-old government or pro-EU?

My confusion just reinforces my belief we have no business getting involved in this cluster f**k.

[DesertRhino]

“the Odessa force, based on “civil activists”, would replace local police who had failed to tackle rebel actions “

Still following the Nazi template. Unreliable police will be replaced by putsch loyalists.

[DesertRhino]

And they are resistant to .50 cal. But I wouldn’t call it “.50 cal proof”.

For example, a P-47 Thunderbolt would make quick work of one. As it flashes past, a few 50 cal hits might not bring it down. But in truth, everything that flies is vulnerable in some way to 50 cal.

[lodi90]

a MI-24 (HIND-D) helicopter was shot down. What purpose does such an aircraft have policing protestors??? I mean really! That is an armored heavy attach helicopter. -----------

FRiend, what type of ordnance would you suggest for engaging Chechen terrorists? A pop gun? Here's a pic from today. This is what "peaceful protestors" looks likes in Putin's fascist nightmare: