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To: tet68
Maybe back then Tet, but add in a ceramic plate and they're pretty effective against quite a bit.

Even the vest itself will stop 9mm. If you hit the vest.

But if you're in a situation where the vest is a necessity....the plate is a necessity. (even a plate carrier and plates rather than a bulky flak).

One of my Marines took a burst of steel core 7.62x54 and lived to tell the tale - plate stopped every round; he was upside down at the time (long story) one round missed the flak and went through the back and out the stomach.

I knew another guy that took two to the plate and continued on with just two small bruises.

The problem is with mass media and the rolling casualty ticker - the powers that be think everyone should be wrapped in bubble wrap, Kevlar, condoms, and glow belts, and provided a rape whistle; safe from any contingency.

- E.G. you're loaded down with so much crap it defeats the purpose because you can't move.

USMC - Uncomplicated Sh#t Made Complicated

42 posted on 05/14/2014 6:43:13 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why are cops ROE more lenient against us, here in the US, than U.S. military's ROE's in a war zone?)
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To: Repeat Offender
- E.G. you're loaded down with so much crap it defeats the purpose because you can't move.

Also known as Agincourt Syndrome.

43 posted on 05/14/2014 7:06:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Repeat Offender

I would bet that Stupid had a Viet Nam era jacket and that he did not snap it closed and had a gap down the center of his chest——— and of course there are no kevlar layers in these 50s designs, just hard plastic and ballistic nylon.

I can’t believe all of these posters though claiming they couldn’t stop some bullets-—— in particular if it was a “small caliber pistol round”.


55 posted on 05/14/2014 11:49:46 PM PDT by Rockpile
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