Posted on 05/24/2014 6:48:40 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine
IIRC; Maine had ‘blue laws’ into the early 90’s...malls were closed on Sundays.
Farmers will LOVE the short growing season. s/
Are you kidding me right now? If you can't envision the objective difference in those two things in the context of being a female, there may be no use in trying to rephrase it; but here goes:
You make my point. There is no difference – both acts are the dictate of a religious majority, spun whatever way you want, that limits choice and freedom.
And due to the widely promulgated civic education, a citizen of theRoM ROP would understand that "blue laws" Wearing a burka is a gift shared among citizens to provide most people in the community a day of deep rest and family time. the BEST garment for righteousness and modest conduct.
Weak response given that your premise is “...it cannot as a matter of Constitutional law, and it will not even try to.”
Is there any math in that? What we are seeing more than any previous time is that certain factions are ignoring the rule of law. So while you fall back on the Constitution (which I also believe should be followed), others (who I consider the bad guys) do not. And when they do not, the certainty you posit is no longer a certainty. Again, only time will tell if the Constitution prevails.
We do not see any Rat states talking or wanting to secede because they are the bad guys who need the lifeblood of others to survive. But they are also the ones who selectively ignore and enforce laws. If what ME wants is what it takes to begin to choke off Washington, so be it.
Stop playing the buffoon, if you have the guts, form a secession movement in your own state or country or wherever you are from and then you can make up your own rules.
I have never seen such a bunch of cry babies as I have here.
Not sure why I have been following this nonsense, but last night it occurred to me that The_Republic_Of_Maine has perpetuated information that his wholly fraudulent. He has said that they only need a majority vote in June 12, 2018 to make this happen following a petition of 100,000 signatures.
The Constitution of Maine has a provision for Citizens Initiatives and Peoples’ Vetoes that can be initiated with a petition, but to actually change the constitution you need to follow the rules outlined below:
Article X.
Additional Provisions.
“Section 4. Amendments to Constitution. The Legislature, whenever 2/3 of both Houses shall deem it necessary, may propose amendments to this Constitution; and when any amendments shall be so agreed upon, a resolution shall be passed and sent to the selectmen of the several towns, and the assessors of the several plantations, empowering and directing them to notify the inhabitants of their respective towns and plantations, in the manner prescribed by law, at the next biennial meetings in the month of November, or to meet in the manner prescribed by law for calling and holding biennial meetings of said inhabitants for the election of Senators and Representatives, on the Tuesday following the first Monday of November following the passage of said resolve, to give in their votes on the question, whether such amendment shall be made; and if it shall appear that a majority of the inhabitants voting on the question are in favor of such amendment, it shall become a part of this Constitution.
It appears to be complicated gobblighygook, but it basically says that changes to the constitution must start as a bill in the legislature and be passed by 2/3rds of both houses. It then needs to go to a November election where is shall require a majority of the voters.
They would need elect over 100 members of the State House and 24 member of the State Senate to achieve their first goal of getting it onto the ballot. That isn’t going to happen.
But other than that, the plan is reasonable and sound.
And I guess I can also make things up as I go along and say one thing at one point and something entirely different at another and then call people buffoons when they point it out to me. With folks like you running the show I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for your Theocracy of Maine to come to pass.
You better hope that when the dust settles in your independent theocracy that your sect of Christianity comes out on top.
If a state were to secede, it would have to either alter its Constitution or pass some kind of law to enact secession.
All state acts and all provisions of state constitutions, according to the US Constitution, are subject to federal review.
Therefore, any act of secession requires the consent of the federal government - which everyone knows will not be given.
It's pretty simple in theory, and we already know what the consequences of secession are in practice.
Apparently, in your vernacular, "crybaby" means "anyone who dares to point out the gaping holes in my reasoning."
How many of the required 300,000+ KJV Onlyists have moved to Maine so far?
And I am sorry you are so thick, please do both of us a favor and read Maine's existing Constitution, you don't have to read it all, only the preamble Article One sections one and two. If you still don't see our authority to secede, then please go bother someone else, for you are hopeless.
The change of the Constitution comes with the vote to secede, it is not a Constitutional amendment, it is a vote to secede from the Union and in doing so establish a Independent and free Christian nation.
Try to understand, we are not doing a Constitutional amendment, the petition is to secede from the union and form a new free and independent Republic.
Just a juvenile response. End of.
All immigrants should be required to sign a pledge they they will acquire the old, nearly extinct rural New England accent (”Titus Moody”/Parker Fennelly) as soon as possible.
So the first act of this new government is to steal the perimeter land from the rightful owners and give it to your buddies. Such fine Christian leadership!
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You are blind.
You want a state to impose religious beliefs on the citizens, and deny them basic liberties. This is the goal of the Taliban and Islamists. You don't see this - blind to reality. The Taliban and the Muslim Brotherhood believe exactly as you do, they just believe different things.
About 150 years ago there was a bit if a kerfuffle that seems to have settled whether a state can just walk out of the Union without approval from the other states. Regardless of what your state constitution may say.
No commerce on Sunday is not an unusual law in western civilization. In Germany up until recently, stores were not to be opened on Sunday. And, we know the blue laws that forbade the sale of certain beverages on Sundays.
I can make a secular argument in favor of each of those, but we both know that there is a religious component.
That said, I don’t like the wording of a lot of this Constitution, and particular defining religious freedom as “worship”. Our constitution is much better using the word “expression”. A future judge will find “worship” to mean what takes place inside a church building worship service. “Expression”, on the other hand, means a citizen can be his religious self anywhere, anytime.
Nor do I think a state will be permitted to secede. Nor do I think that a state which keeps sending liberal representatives to Congress is going to come close to voting in favor of this.
Finally, there is a piece of me that finds it distasteful to invite a bunch of ringer voters to move to Maine just to sway a vote. There’s something dishonest in that.
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