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Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen Not Happy to Find Themselves Linked to UCSB Shooter
New York Magazine ^ | 5/27 | Caroline Bankoff

Posted on 05/27/2014 10:50:42 AM PDT by nickcarraway

On Monday, the Washington Post film critic Ann Hornaday published an op-ed drawing a connection between UCSB shooter Elliot Rodger and "the entertainment industry he grew up in." (The 22-year-old's father, Peter Rodger, worked as an assistant director on The Hunger Games.) Of Rodger's chilling video confession, Hornaday wrote, "With his florid rhetoric of self-pity, aggression and awkwardly forced 'evil laugh,' Rodger resembled a noxious cross between Christian Bale's slick sociopath in 'American Psycho,' the thwarted womanizer in James Toback’s 'The Pick-Up Artist' and every Bond villain in the canon." But she also brought up the ostensibly harmless characters found in comedies aimed at Rodger's demographic (young, straight, white males).

For generations, mass entertainment has been overwhelmingly controlled by white men, whose escapist fantasies so often revolve around vigilantism and sexual wish-fulfillment (often, if not always, featuring a steady through-line of casual misogyny). Rodger’s rampage may be a function of his own profound distress, but it also shows how a sexist movie monoculture can be toxic for women and men alike.

How many students watch outsized frat-boy fantasies like 'Neighbors' and feel, as Rodger did, unjustly shut out of college life that should be full of 'sex and fun and pleasure'? How many men, raised on a steady diet of Judd Apatow comedies in which the shlubby arrested adolescent always gets the girl, find that those happy endings constantly elude them and conclude, 'It’s not fair'?

Unsurprisingly, Apatow and Neighbors star Seth Rogen were unhappy to find themselves linked to the deaths of six college students, and they took to Twitter to criticize Hornaday:

So far, Hornaday has yet to respond to Rogen and Apatow's criticisms.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: crimeandstupidity; elliotrodger

1 posted on 05/27/2014 10:50:42 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
but it also shows how a sexist movie monoculture can be toxic for women and men alike.

Can't we like, pass a law to ban or regulate something and stuff?

/s

2 posted on 05/27/2014 10:53:04 AM PDT by SIDENET
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To: nickcarraway
I posted this on the other thread just before this, but it's worth repeating:

Progressives, eating their own.

3 posted on 05/27/2014 10:55:17 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: SIDENET

it really is an unbelievably stupid article.

I have yet to see an intelligent take on this atrocity, from either side of the political spectrum. And I don’t have one myself, other than “mental illness is bad and we don’t do a good job in this country handling these extreme cases” which is not very helpful as a policy recommendation


4 posted on 05/27/2014 10:57:04 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: nickcarraway

The First Amendment will cease to exist within 24 hours of the destruction of the Second.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 10:58:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: babble-on

True.
Has the list of prescribed meds been released yet? There undoubtedly will be several in this guys history.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 11:03:24 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

His parents didn’t take him to a mental health professional.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 11:07:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SIDENET
Now, this kids problems run deeper than movies but...

Which is it Hollywood? You make movies that impact people, carry “important” messages, form public opinion OR, when it hits the fan, “our movies are just entertainment; we don't have any responsibility.”

8 posted on 05/27/2014 11:09:48 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: nickcarraway
Can't take my old Mom or my grandkids to any movie today, at all...Can't watch Two Broke Girls, Big Bang, etc., or any so-called mainstream program with them. Likewise Disney and Touchstone have through-and through innuendo and creepy, sexual references, too. Cringing type slimy jokes, every few seconds.

What people are NOT pointing out is that all three sets of perps... of Columbine, Connecticut, and UCSB, ALL of them were conditioned, desensitized, infantilized, and trained watching videos made by EA and other evil, publicly traded companies.

Sure, these public companies have First Amendment rights. But they don't care too much about the implied responsibilities.

In my opinion, a very serious case for causation could be made in court in a civil suit. These video games breed these creeps as effectively as United Airlines uses similar technology to train pilots.

But mostly, I and anyone with any education and upbringing are terminally weary of the horrible feculent Hollywood CrapCulture...extending to our news, movies, TV shows, video games, music. These massacres are just what happens when you immerse infantile atheistic, turd-like people in the sick Hollywood leftist CrapCulture for years and years.

Cause <<---->> effect. Believe it.

9 posted on 05/27/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by caddie
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To: nickcarraway

I have no problem with labeling this creep a misogynist. He truly fit the definition. I do have a real problem with feminists who use this label for all men.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 11:14:28 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: nickcarraway

Man-hating woman alert.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 11:17:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: nickcarraway

He may very well be a left-wing Canadian doofus who appears in bad movies. But blaming Seth Rogan for a lunatic’s mass murder does seem quite unfair.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 11:21:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Seems to me he wasn’t exclusively a misogynist. He seemed to hate a lot of people, including the young men who “scored” sex with the girls. He was a narcissist who thought he was entitled to whatever he wanted, and thought he was better than most people.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Plenty of hate there, that’s for sure.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 11:49:43 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: nickcarraway
"My Psychiatrist ... Dr. Sophy ended up giving me the same useless advice that every other psychiatrist, psychologist, and counsellor had given me in the past. I don't know why my parents wasted money on therapy, as it will never help me in my struggle against such a cruel and unjust world. The doctor ended up dismissing it by prescribing me a controversial medication, Risperidone…."

Maybe his parents didn't take him, but he admits to seeing an assortment of mental health professionals, and being prescribed meds at least once.

15 posted on 05/27/2014 11:52:28 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: nickcarraway
Virgin Murderer Elliott Rodger Hadn’t Seen Psychiatrist In 2 Years

UCSB mass shooter Elliott Rodger hadn’t been seen by a psychiatrist since 2012 (though he had been treated by psychologists)

Elliott’s 141-page manifesto mentions in 2012 that he had been treated by psychiatrist Dr. Charles Sophy and refused to take medication that was prescribed to him.

“At the time of Elliott’s killings, he was being treated by two psychologists: one in Santa Barbara and another in Southern California,” a family insider tells RadarOnline.com. “His family now recognizes that he should have been in intensive treatment including psychiatrists.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 12:11:26 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: nickcarraway

lets see... x men direct or being civily sued by over 100 plaintiffs for sex with minors, the directors of hunger games have this virgin psycho inspired by them...

the suits better purge these liabilities.


17 posted on 05/27/2014 12:21:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: babble-on

“And I don’t have one myself, other than “mental illness is bad and we don’t do a good job in this country handling these extreme cases”

Just because his parents and the media say he was mentally ill doesn’t make it so.

In his own words, therapy was useless in a “cruel and unjust world.” And he was right about the world being cruel and unjust. It is. Everybody has to find a way to live with that.

He refused to, just like he refused to work a custodial job, walking off after one day, because he was a self-described “intellectual” and the job was beneath him. That isn’t mental illness, either. That’s a grandiose view of yourself and your place in the universe.

He thought he was smarter than all the therapists. He didn’t know God. So there was no helping him. He decided to take revenge by throwing a childish temper tantrum against the “cruel and unjust” world and his place in it. And he used knives and guns and his car — anything within reach, like a kid who throws himself on the floor and breaks things. That’s not mental illness. That’s childishness.

If he was sick, he’s not responsible. Do you really want to let him and all the narcissistic, eternally childish, hateful bastards like him, off the hook for his choices and actions?


18 posted on 05/27/2014 1:59:19 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink

I think you can be mentally ill and still be held criminally responsible for your actions. Not guilty by reason of insanity should really be reserved for people who truly are so crazy they actually don’t know that they are hurting people.


19 posted on 05/27/2014 2:47:34 PM PDT by babble-on
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