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San Diego parents reveal story of transgender son who became boy at 5
NY Daily News ^ | May 30, 2014 | LEE MORAN

Posted on 05/30/2014 3:47:43 AM PDT by EinNYC

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To: GeronL

Some say tattoo removal will be big business down the road. I wonder if gender re-reassignment will be as well when all these children of messed up parents grow older?


21 posted on 05/30/2014 5:03:26 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: EinNYC

With all the chemicals in processed foods, who knows if there is something that causes problems in the chromosomes of babies. I mean, think about the ingredients in foods. You need to be a chemist to know what some things are.


22 posted on 05/30/2014 5:08:33 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: tired&retired; kingattax
Tired&retired, spirits do not have a sex, since sexual differentiation is a biological reproductive characteristic and spirits do not reproduce and are not biological: they are disembodied.

Any and all gender characteristics assumed by a disembodied spirit would be artifice and/or delusion.

23 posted on 05/30/2014 5:08:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: EinNYC; Mrs. Don-o

A female is a female, biologically, except in very rare cases of genetic mixup. At no time in her life does a girl or woman have a moral obligation to meet anyone’s expectations about “feminine” tastes, appearance, or style.

We live in a crazy society. The crudest “gender” stereotypes are imposed as if they, rather than biological sex, determine reality. Then, a person who doesn’t fit the strait-jacket role is treated, not as an individual man/woman with a right to his or her own identity, but as a person who needs to change biological sex, perhaps in the expectation that he/she will then conform to the opposite gender expectations.

When a society imposes extreme and unnatural strictures on acceptable human flourishing, a lot of people are driven bats. The culture of Saudi Arabia, for example, has spawned an industry in Europe (and probably the U.S.) of mental-health professionals to treat (if I correctly recall the term) “Arabian hysteria”: women who are freaking out because of the insanity of their society.


24 posted on 05/30/2014 5:11:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I had some wild friends ... we did some crazy things.)
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To: EinNYC

Did they have him tested for the XY gene? Sometimes the Y gene fails to express itself and the fetus, which started out, as all of them do, female, continues on developing as a female. The baby is, in all respects, female, except that she is sterile.


25 posted on 05/30/2014 5:12:10 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: shibumi

Gender Identity is a function of the soul. All souls have both masculine and feminine components with Love as the glue that holds them together and stabilizes their growth.

If the dominant spin aspect of the soul is to a person’s right, whether male or female by gender, the person will exhibit a feminine personality. If the dominant spin aspect is to the left, then the dominant aspects exhibited are masculine.

I feel these as I walk up to people and can even identify at what point their soul changed. I do a fair amount of work with gays & lesbians. In every relationship there is always one masculine and one feminine, irregardless of the gender.

Gender selection is based upon what is intellectually acceptable. Attraction and personality attributes are totally a function of the soul which is also a function of the parental and environmental influences during the soul’s critical formulation period.

A similar shift in consciousness within the soul is what causes autism, Asperger’s Syndrome and MS. I’m not discounting biochemistry. The soul/consciousness is what controls biochemistry. That’s why placebos work.


26 posted on 05/30/2014 5:15:39 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: EinNYC

This scares the hell out of me. I grew up with a guy who’s younger brother wanted to be a girl when he was very young. The parents were very understanding but worried about his future. He gradually became more masculine and started palling around with us. About the time his hormones kicked in it was quite clear his was masculine, in fact I envied his luck with the ladies. Today he is married to a wonderful woman and has three kids. What if he had been born to parents that would butcher his body so that they could have a liberal status symbol?


27 posted on 05/30/2014 5:16:13 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: EinNYC

I was a tomboy and hated all things girly. Especially dresses (because girls couldn’t clumb trees in dresses) and I am not transgender or gay.


28 posted on 05/30/2014 5:17:08 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: ncalburt
The hidden fact is 60-70% of the confused people who get gender surgery come back to get the process REVERSED in a year !

Not debating your point, but do you have a reference?

I've always suspected this, but would love to have quantification.

The problem, of course, is that some surgical procedures cannot really be "reversed."

29 posted on 05/30/2014 5:17:23 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Excellence

That is very true.


30 posted on 05/30/2014 5:19:28 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Mrs. Dono. Your comment... “Tired&retired, spirits do not have a sex, since sexual differentiation is a biological reproductive characteristic and spirits do not reproduce and are not biological: they are disembodied.
Any and all gender characteristics assumed by a disembodied spirit would be artifice and/or delusion.”

Oh if it were only that simple...... see my post # 26

The soul of spirit is perfect in that it has both components which are required to become whole. This is why Paul stated what he did about it being better to remain single. Love is the really important component, which judgement tends to push aside and creates the dysfunctions. That’s why Jesus said He did not come to judge, but to save.

If we are to emulate Jesus, we should do more Loving and less judging.


31 posted on 05/30/2014 5:22:14 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: EinNYC

Bull butter.

People either have two different chromosomes or they don’t. Period.

They can, of course, have mentally retarded parents whose need to be ‘progressive’ outweighs common sense.


32 posted on 05/30/2014 5:44:24 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: EinNYC
As the video was playing my family members were in quite the animated discussion about this topic - triggered by my reading the title and highlights from the article.

Initial, very strong reaction...child abuse. Two year old children making gender identity choices is insane! Parents who accomodate toddler thru preschool decisions on gender identity. . .with medical community intervention on behalf of such is crazy!

The comments at the NYPost indicate there was no surgery - yet. This would suggest the parent's 'brave' choice is at best . . .superficial. Give them a trophy and lots of attention!

Imagine the process this family will be facing during puberty - as this child's body does not naturally accomodate morphing into the preferred gender physically - not to mention, hormonally.

33 posted on 05/30/2014 5:47:59 AM PDT by wtd
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To: CrazyIvan

“Jeff and Hillary Whittington”

“Look at us! Look at us! Look how upwardly mobile and hipster we are. We could be the life of every dinner party. We could be the focal point for every hipster doofus enlightenment gathering we go to. We already got an award at a “diversity breakfast”. We will hang that on the wall right beside our little girl’s dignity. Look at us. We are so enlightened. We are so progressive. We are so hipster.
Now, how do we make our child gay? That would be icing on the cake! Gay at 8 years old! OOOHHH thats so enlightened. Thats soooo hipster progressive. ‘Darling, guess what? We decided that you are gay now. Isn’t that Coool!’ We’re such modern parents. We are so enlightened”


34 posted on 05/30/2014 6:00:32 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: EinNYC

“”””6th annual Harvey Milk Diversity Breakfast”””””

What in sam hell is a diversity breakfast???? I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

If my HTML skills weren’t so bad I would post that picture of John Wayne where he is looking over his shoulder kinda like “What the f*** is a ‘diversity breakfast’? Are you shitting me?


35 posted on 05/30/2014 6:03:43 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: wtd
Fear of emotional/mental crisis due to gender identity questions will not evaporate because a child dresses in chosen gender fashion.

Any parent of teenaged children can attest to the emotionally charged environment created during puberty and the teen years.

Despite their self admiring satisfaction at addressing future mental stability issues . . .these folks will be spending many dollars and hours in therapy over the years - with no guarentees this child will survive doubts about personal gender . . .regardless of whether their child is supported by family & medical community & LGBTQ or not. They may think they are ahead of the curve, but my bet is they have quite a long & challenging road ahead of them.

36 posted on 05/30/2014 6:05:17 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Excellence

You’re talking about Klinefelter’s syndrome, wherein the affected individual is genetically XXY. When they reach adulthood, they look pretty much like a normal male, except they may have some breast development. They are usually infertile or have very much reduced fertility.


37 posted on 05/30/2014 6:33:13 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Tax-chick; EinNYC
Excellent points. There is no biological or moral law that says girls are supposed to like sequins and sashes and ballet slippers and giggle-sounds and the color pink and barbiedolls or painted toes, and boys like fart-sounds and the color blue and tonka trucks and explosions (though many do!) --- but it's these flippin, organ-snippin' trans activists who want to multilate boys' and girls' genitals to make them conform to the stereotype.

Alleged statement from a 3-year-old boy: "I feel like a girl inside." Hogwash: he has no idea what a girl feels like inside. He feels like, precisely, himself, and only himself, a boy, inside. But somebody told him that very experience was feeling like a girl.

When I think about it, I get pretty angry.

Full disclosure: I remember my first time as a bride's maid, when I was about 18, having my hair "done up" and my face "made up" (and my glasses taken away from me) and being peer-pressured into a silky bridesmaid dress: I tolerated it with good humor, since I didn't want to refuse my friend's festive request, but I distinctly remember feeling like a "female impersonator." I did. It just wasn't my style.

But that never made me less a woman. Sheesh.

38 posted on 05/30/2014 7:10:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I like your story. When I was a young girl I was called a “tomboy”. I had a horse and I rode Sugarfoot everywhere. I wore boys bluejeans because I don't think they even made blue jeans for girls back in the early 50’s, at least not where we shopped.

I remember thinking to myself that I was going to wear bluejeans my whole life and I didn't care what anyone else thought! I am 73 and I do still wear jeans but it's nothing unusual now for women to wear them, but I don't ride horses anymore.

39 posted on 05/30/2014 7:19:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Bless you. I'm sure there have always been girls who liked horses and sturdy boots (or mud on their feet), just like there have always been boys who liked singing and poetry and flowers.

No reason to abuse them --- surgically maim them, hormonally confuse them --- with this trans-sex trans-gender crap.

40 posted on 05/30/2014 7:44:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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