[william clark]

Sorry, but I'll take the biblical explanation over anything else every day of the week.

Call me simplistic, callous, and unproductive all day long, God's definition, not mine, not yours, is what is important.

What makes you think that the Biblical view is contradictory to a rational understanding of their condition? You've created a straw argument there. God condemns as sin the activity of homosexuality, not the fact that one is so tempted. He doesn't indicate what may trigger the desire.

Hurling scripture at homosexuals with no desire to understand them as people with different struggles than yours will certainly succeed in driving them away from a consideration of the gospel and their need for repentance and grace. Sure, it's easier to stand on your side of the line, condemn and cheerlead, but that lack of engagement is precisely why the so-called gay rights movement has made such progress in our culture over the last few decades.

If I speak with the tongues of men and angels...

[SoConPubbie]

What makes you think that the Biblical view is contradictory to a rational understanding of their condition? You've created a straw argument there. God condemns as sin the activity of homosexuality, not the fact that one is so tempted. He doesn't indicate what may trigger the desire.

Temptation comes from outside the heart. The Desire to sin is what Jesus came to conquer, not just the physical act.

Christ was tempted to sin, but he never desired the sin in any occasion.

For example:

Matthew 5:28:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

So simply lusting after someone in your heart is committed the sin physically. This is what Christ came to save us from.

And you are correct, I have no desire to understand a homosexual. I understand their sin and I know the solution, Salvation through the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made for our sins.

Jesus, at no time, spent time trying to "understand" why people were sinning, he acknowledged their sin, he rebuked their sin, and then he pointed them to the solution to their sin, the Gospel.

[Olog-hai]

Jesus wasn’t trying to win over the recalcitrant scribes and Pharisees either. Rebels are rebels.