“disagree that the reasons for the invasion of the south were primarily due to some noble desire to emancipate the slaves”.
Yes, slavery is use to divert, to try and shame but it doesn’t work on Southerners ever!!
Northerners just don’t get that, and probably never will! That in itself, has it’s on problems.
“Slavery started the war” has been parroted by the sheeple, trained to force people away from the North’s illegal attack on the South. It’s nothing but a deception, watch for it because it never stops.
BUT WHY do people jump straight to slaves when it is documented that it was not about slaves.
Slaves may have been a part of the South and would have gone with the South but THAT WAS LEGAL. There were GIVE OUR TAKE 3 reasons spelled out CLEARLY as to why the South left the Union and...started a new country.
It happen.
I’ll try to put it together as it would be used in a court room...
In like I would like to illegally change an existing old contract that I don’t like. My name is no where on the Doc. but I want change it because I’ll “feel” better.
I WANT TO change the way slave is used in the top part of that old contract DOC. that has ALREADY BEEN SIGNED AND AGREED TO by other people.
Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
(the reasons) You can not change or claim anything outside of these reasons listed in this Declaration, proof on the paper as to why, a contract that was signed and printed out.
That’s why it’s called a Declaration! Permanent! Can’t back up or out now.
(IT READS)
The people of the State of South Carolina, in > Convention assembled <, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other (States, WHICH under the Constitution of the United slaveholder states of America where it is still legal), she forbore at that time to exercise this right.
Since that time, ...these encroachments have continued to increase, (gone unanswered) and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.
WHY? ((in Convention assembled <, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared))
1. frequent violations (like non stop) of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government
2. Federal Government encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States
3. these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue
These items are at issue and debatable...NOT!!!
Were there frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government? Answer Yes or No
Were there Federal Government encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States? Answer Yes or No
Were there these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue? Answer Yes or No
DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU CHECK YES OR NO. This is what people seem to overlook...
They didn’t do this overnight and then write it down on a hotel notepad and say OK boy’s I got it, get the beer and let’s go start a new country.
AGAIN: This is Immediate Causes
Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.
1. frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government
2. Federal Government encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States
3. these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue
You have just read above WHY the South did it!
Now...In order... NEXT>>>>>
Declaration cont.
And now ...((WE HAVE DONE IT, no more discussion, that’s it, they are listed above, take it or lie about)) the State of South Carolina having resumed her separate and equal place among nations, deems it due to herself, to the remaining United States of America, and to the nations of the world, that she should declare the immediate causes which have led to this act.
(we are done, out of there, we are our on country again)
You may disagree with them on what led to this act, but that’s it. Why they did it is listed and can not be changed.
You can read the rest here at yale http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp but the reason listed are clear.
Can’t change what was listed in the cause.
at the end of Doc. ...”with full power to levy war”. Yes, we lost the war but.. we did it. We backed up what we said we would do when the North attacked us as a country.
We levied war back at THE North, another country was invading us, as listed in the South Carolina Declaration.
We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to >>>>>levy war (which we did as a country), conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.
Doesn’t matter if it was lollipops or can tuna or slaves, the declared reason is still declared.
That might be the reason for all the hostility..
The North can’t change the written past. They can only attempt to rewrite it and push the North’s propaganda.
The items listed in the Declaration, were never dealt with except through the barrels of 10’s of 1000’s of Northern guns blazing away at children, women, civilian’s along with our soldiers including livestock, land, water and the food supply.
my opinion any way on short notice