“You miss the point of scientific principles. IF you are seeing a fertility doc you already have problems.”
Excellent point.
Why is there now a need for SIX+ times the number of fertility doctors as opposed to 20 years ago? This isn’t an area where women ‘put off childbearing’. It’s the rural south. If you make it to 25 without having ‘completed your perfect 2 child family’ they think there’s something wrong with you. And apparently lot of them DO have something wrong with them now...
Were people just as infertile but somehow it escaped their notice 20 years ago? ‘It’s been here all along, we just didn’t have an official diagnosis for it before!’. To the tune of six times the need?
Maybe the 20 somethings in their waiting rooms decided to stroke checks for $10K for a fertility doctor because that was so much more ‘rewarding’ and ‘enjoyable’ than a trip to disney or a cruise...
Oh puuuuhleeze. Women are seeking treatment and in vitro well passed the previous age that most quit even having menses.
” If you make it to 25 without having ‘completed your perfect 2 child family’ they think there’s something wrong with you” This is the problem with having specialists... if you aren’t in need of their services then they go broke. Hence, they find a way for you to need their services. Some of this comes by advertising. Some of this comes from people watching too much television and social media.
My own daughter who is 27 hasn’t had children yet.....AND we live in the rural south. OOOOOOMG!!! No one asks why or anything else. Your state flag indicates New Jersey...so give me a citation for your ‘rural south’ number.
“To the tune of six times the need?” This makes no economic sense.
” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that in 2006, about 1 out of 12 births in the U.S. were to first-time mothers older than 35, compared to 1 out of 100 in 1970. In other words, only about 1% of first-time mothers were 35 or older in 1970; this number increased eightfold to about 8% in 2006.”
I could go on but I won’t. You really are being ridiculous. People put off having children just like they put off getting married. There are more of ALL types of specialists these days. This doesn’t mean we have more of a particular need than before it means the human body is complex and by studying how it works medicine has created specialties that didn’t exist 20,30,40 or 50 years ago.
“Maybe the 20 somethings in their waiting rooms decided to stroke checks for $10K for a fertility doctor because that was so much more ‘rewarding’ and ‘enjoyable’ than a trip to disney or a cruise...” That’s just plain crude. I don’t know who are angry at but it is misplaced. It isn’t plastics, it isn’t things in the water or any of the other ‘conspiracy’ theories out there. People chose NOT to have children for lots of reasons. In the past, folks said well I guess God hasn’t blessed us yet. If you tell me that the world view has changed I will agree.... but it is not plastics in the water.
You never responded to my saccharin story so how about this set...you do remember Alar and the apple scare; or how about beef ALL being contaminated with BSE; or any of a dozen other scientific frauds...(and let us not forget AWG).
You need to actually read these studies to find out methodologies and sample size etc etc to understand whether the results have ANY meaning. Moreover you cannot automatically make animal to human correlations....you just can’t.
I know it probably shocks you but not every ‘scientist’ is an honest broker. They have to get funding from SOMEWHERE and all too many will make sure that whatever they test and write keeps the money flowing.