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FALSE FLAG ALERT: Craigslist Ad Asking for CRISIS ACTORS in Houston For JULY 4th
The Daily Sheeple ^ | 06/20/2014 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/21/2014 7:26:54 AM PDT by Silentgypsy

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To: Silentgypsy

“Do they usually require confidentiality agreements? To what end?”

I can only guess that emergency responders would not want terrorists to know tactics, plans or weaknesses in the response. Either that or it’s the government planning to kill its own citizens and cover up the conspiracy. I’m going with the former. The Alex Jones types can go with the latter.


41 posted on 06/21/2014 8:45:34 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

The Houston police and EMS personnel are not suspect. The possibility of heavy-handed federal agency intervention is a concern.


42 posted on 06/21/2014 8:46:46 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: Silentgypsy

“The possibility of heavy-handed federal agency intervention is a concern.”

So what’s the scenario, exactly? What do you think is going to happen here?


43 posted on 06/21/2014 8:57:11 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz; All
I thought that terrorists primarily aim at the target and, secondarily, at first responders to the target. Unless the takeover of Houston is a step in the plan to establish a world caliphate (?), why would anyone care about the responders' methodology with the exception of the above tried-and-true plan?

Whenever an issue concerns or puzzles me, I ask for thoughts and opinions from the FReepers. They are invariably helpful. I appreciate all of your thoughtful (and sometimes humorous) responses!

44 posted on 06/21/2014 8:58:11 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: Silentgypsy

I think it sucks! Where in Houston? (We are living, until further notice, in SE Houston. And not planning to come home for the 4th of July holiday weekend. Or we weren’t)

As a side note- or maybe not, something that has impressed me about Houston is that there are American flags EVERYWHERE. They sure started early if it’s for the 4th of July. The community we are staying in has flags, or multiples of them, on every boulevard. Maybe their commie mayor isn’t liking this too much?

The other thing I think is that people (our people) should apply
For these positions & get the inside story, then spread it like wildfire. But that’s just common sense.


45 posted on 06/21/2014 9:15:57 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Fuzz

Maybe they do more than that?


46 posted on 06/21/2014 9:17:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Silentgypsy

NWO needs to step it up, so I think they’ll go WMD soon.

Dirty bomb.

Complete w radiation detectors beeping.

They’ll do a regional disaster as a trial run to keep everyone indoors (curfew) and test 30% Martial Law. Perhaps attempt some weapons seizure like they did during Katrina ‘For public safety.’

Of course homeowners are safer during a disaster when they face looters WITHOUT their guns that got seized by DHS to ‘Keep them safe.’


47 posted on 06/21/2014 9:20:45 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: dforest

“Maybe they do more than that?”

Like what?


48 posted on 06/21/2014 9:28:27 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Bob

I’ve participated in several of these drills in my town. I wrote the scenario for one. Quite a bit of fun, actually. We used local CERT teams, friends, and family as trained “victims”. We had a professional moulage artist come in and do a bang up job simulating serious injuries, penetrating trauma, battle sign, broken bones, etc.

And yes, we cordoned off the area to keep non-participants away. Nothing sinister about it at all. Our fire and EMS crews got some good mass casualty training and the kids had a great time getting “gored up” as they call it. Taking them out for pizza afterwards was interesting as they refused to remove the make up afterwards.

Our CERT team got some valuable experience integrating with the local cops and fire crews, too. Granted we didn’t have to advertise on CL, but we have a cadre of local citizens trained for this. Maybe Houston doesn’t..


49 posted on 06/21/2014 9:54:44 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Silentgypsy

One time I pulled into the parking lot at my apartment complex and there were all kinds of emergency people there. There was a guy laying on the pavement and EMTs were hovering over him. The guy that was down looked exactly like my son from where I stood and I started screaming and almost collapsed. The EMT rushed over and told me it was just a drill and had to check me out to make sure I was OK.

Would have been nice if us residents had a warning about the drill, and I told them as much.


50 posted on 06/21/2014 9:59:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Lurker

How many people did you help the government kill during these drills?


51 posted on 06/21/2014 10:00:48 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Nachum

Ping


52 posted on 06/21/2014 10:01:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Silentgypsy

Bookmark


53 posted on 06/21/2014 10:06:24 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Fuzz

“How many people did you help the government kill during these drills?”

A couple of dozen, at least. Dropped the corpses in an acid bath to dispose of them. We used wood chippers on the fat ones. All the local cops and firefighters stepped up to help out. Then we all were sworn to secrecy under pain of a quick trip to the Illinois gulag, located in Rosemont in the basement of the Convention Center.

Seriously though, if you ever get the chance to participate in one of these I recommend you do so. You’ll make some great contacts in the local police and fire departments. As I said I got the opportunity to write one of the disaster scenarios, that was really fun.

Having a bunch of kids involved was a real plus as far as training the EMS types. In mass casualty scenarios, such as a tornado, there are always injured kids and those folks told me they can’t get enough training on pediatric cases. So there was a lot of value for everyone involved.

As a bonus I ended up on a first name basis with the leadership of both departments, never a bad thing if you ask me.


54 posted on 06/21/2014 10:10:35 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Fuzz

Addendum:

The kids had an absolute blast getting “wounded”. If you simulate a penetrating trauma on a 14 year old boy, well, let’s just say they will remember that forever. You should have seen the looks on the faces of the folks at the local pizza shop when we walked in... Priceless. Absolutely priceless.


55 posted on 06/21/2014 10:13:48 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: KGeorge

Maybe be are displaying red-white-&-blue flags in opposition to the rainbow flags the homofascists are waving this month.


56 posted on 06/21/2014 10:17:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Fuzz

And some people’s snarkiness isn’t worth responding to any further. Welcome to my ‘ignore’ list.


57 posted on 06/21/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

“Welcome to my ‘ignore’ list.”

I’m honored.


58 posted on 06/21/2014 10:35:21 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: sgtyork

“Should sign up to gains some intel.”

Or $200.


59 posted on 06/21/2014 11:44:02 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Silentgypsy; Fuzz; Lurker
I am very suspicious of most ads on Craigslist and not for the reason that some here are suspicious of this one and I’ll get to that shortly.

First of all, if the government wants the drill to be a secret, then why post the ad on Craigslist?

Next, most large scale drills, unless they are conducted on a military base or a secluded area, are announced in advance so as not to freak out the public. Here in central PA, when TMI conducts a mock disaster drills or tests their emergency sirens, which they do fairly regularly; it is announced in advance on the local news and in the newspapers. The last thing that they want to happen is have the 911 system flooded with frantic calls when it is just a drill.

Next, the ad asks for “crisis actors” but then says that no experience is needed. There is such a thing as a professional “crisis actor” but it isn’t as nefarious as it sounds and experience for a true “crisis actor” is required. These are trained professional actors whose specialty is convincingly acting like they have been injured or are reacting as most people would during a disaster or some other type of “crisis”, a mass casualty event, a terror attack or even a hurricane or tornado for instance.

From what I understand they are very helpful in training LEO’s and first responders, National Guard medics, etc., more so than just somebody, an untrained volunteer who is told to lie down here with this piece of red tape on you that says “broken arm” and “pretend” you are injured. And as Lurker pointed out, even untrained “actors”, even kids participating in these sorts of drills are coached on how to act and convincingly made up to look the part. And I find it rather suspicious that some unnamed government agency or “government contractor” would openly advertize for “crisis actors” on Craigslist. To me that sounds more like some foreigner placing a bogus ad or some nut job trying to out some conspiracy that doesn’t exist except for only in his head.

Similarly there are also actors and companies that specialize in making those “Safety Training” videos I often have to watch working in HR for a manufacturing company. Some of them are god awful, badly acted and some are entertaining, but the ones that make a lasting impression are the ones that are gory and realistically portrayed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB86FZnjKTw

And believe it or not, that Seinfeld episode where Cramer and his buddy compete with each other over who is going to portray Gonorrhea or some other disease for the medical school students to diagnose is not complete fiction. These are also professional actors who take the time to learn how to realistically portray the symptoms of various sorts of medical conditions that an ER doctor might encounter in real life along with the subtlety of not making it, the diagnosis obvious.

http://www.backstage.com/news/for-actors-pretending-to-be-sick-can-pay-off/

And speaking of training, I was talking to our EHS admin last week and she told me that she recently volunteered to participate in a training exercise for new PA State Troopers on DUI training. She was asked to participate by a local cop who is her friend and her next door neighbor. They don’t place public ads for this but depend on the family and friends of local LEO’s for their pool of participants. She and the other participants; men and women of various weights and ages were given tests at the beginning and then were given drinks at various levels of alcohol content and some were given no alcohol as the control group, all over the course of several hours and the PA Troopers in training administered various tests as they would if pulling over a driver under suspicion of a DUI and administered breathalyzer tests. She told me that she is not much of a drinker and got completely snookered, was laughing and slurring her words and couldn’t pass any of the tests after only two drinks. On the other hand one of the guys in the volunteer group was given a lot more to drink and did fine on the road side tests but his BAC breathalyzer test scored much higher than hers. They were then given a meal and were not allowed to leave until their BAC was below the legal limit or they had a sober designated driver to drive them home. Her daughter also volunteered and was given less alcohol than her mom but ended up throwing up and nearly passing out and even after eating and lying down for an hour, still had a BAC too high to legally drive. She said it was really informative to her and the Troopers in training as to how people react differently.

But getting back to the Craigslist ad, a fairly high percentage of all job ads on Craigslist are scams (as are a lot of others, particularly ads for houses for rent that sound too good to be true). A high percentage of everything posted on Craiglist is either a scam or a way for scammers to scam you if you post something for sale. Be forewarned!

What happens is a job is posted and it could sound on the surface like a legitimate job or job for a temporary gig like this one where you could make $200, not needing any experience for basically doing nothing but just showing up. The hiring company is never named in the ad (a big red flag) and the contact is often made via a cell phone number or to a generic email account like a gmail or yahoo account.

What happens when people respond to these ads is that they are told one or more of several things; they are asked to pay up front for a background check which will be later reimbursed to them and or they are asked to provide an SSN and DOB. Or they are told to complete an I-9 along with the required docs and or W-4 and scan and email them back to them, often to a gmail or yahoo email address, not a legitimate company email.

And or they are told they will be paid via a direct deposit or wire transfer and they ask for the applicant’s bank routing number and account number to ensure they will be paid on time.

In all of these cases, there is no job but the job seeker’s identity is stolen.

Or they are told they will receive a check up front to purchase “supplies” or pay for training or some such other upfront costs which is often more than the amount needed and then they are told to send them back the difference in a personal check or make it via a Western Union transfer. The check the job seeker gets is bogus, often drawn on a foreign or fake account but it might take a week or more for the recipient’s bank to catch on, in the mean time the job seeker has sent the scammer money out of their own account that clears long before the bogus check they deposited is discovered and they are left holding the bag.

I smell a scam more than I do a “false flag” considering these same or nearly identical ads have popped up on Craigslist all over the country.

http://talkabout.hubpages.com/hub/Job-Hunting--10-Red-Flags-that-the-Job-Post-in-Craigs-List-may-be-a-Scam

60 posted on 06/21/2014 11:48:31 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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