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To: nickcarraway

What the money ball movie ignored is what REALLY wins in baseball; pitching. The money ball A’s had some pretty good pitching.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 2:07:36 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: fungoking

I disagree, sort of. The key to winning baseball games is to score more runs than your opponent. Using SABRmetrics has been the key to Billyball’s success. Bill James revolutionized the baseball industry with his Baseball Abstracts which created new measures which used past performance to predict future success. Billy Bean, I believe, was the first to apply them.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 2:29:50 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: fungoking

You’re exactly right. The Moneyball concept was BS. They had Tim Hudson, Barry Zito, and Mark Mulder in their pitching prime.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 3:49:07 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: fungoking
What the money ball movie ignored is what REALLY wins in baseball; pitching.

Of course, pitching is where it all starts. If you've got really got pitching, the other side ain't hitting anything.

And to win the World Series, you need at least TWO really good pitchers - one isn't enough. (With 4-day rotation, you can put your ace in games 1,4 and 7, and your #2 guy in games 2 and 5).


13 posted on 06/28/2014 3:49:11 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: fungoking

In the movie and book, the three names that never were mentioned, Hudson, Mulder, and Zito. It would ruin a great premise.


15 posted on 06/29/2014 5:40:33 AM PDT by gusty
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