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To: PapaNew

And who is the biggest promoter of collectivism which turns human beings into domesticated animals (the allusion for George Orwell’s,”Animal Farm”)?

The one percenters!

It all started with British industrialist, Robert Owen, who was of the opinion that collectivism would solve man’s social ills. He even came to America and started the first commune in 1826 in New Harmony, Indiana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Owen

And what kind of people did it attract?
(from the same wiki entry)
‘...their members were very motley, mixing many worthy people of the highest aims with vagrants, adventurers, and crotchety, wrongheaded enthusiasts, or in the words of Owen’s son “a heterogeneous collection of radicals, enthusiastic devotees to principle, honest latitudinarians, and lazy theorists, with a sprinkling of unprincipled sharpers thrown in.”’

A bunch of radical, lazy, stinky hippies!

You have to remember that collectivism (and all its forms) is a process, not a goal, and both parties, Pubbies and Dems, are happy to take us for the ride!

The only people who benefit from collectivism are the rich and the poor until the middle class runs out of money. Ever heard the old phrase, “playing both ends against the middle”?


10 posted on 07/01/2014 8:31:43 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I don't buy the Marxist view that the rich are per se the oppressors of the poor. Our Founders were rich and they created a country that has helped more poor people than any nation in modern history. In a free society, the rich HELP the poor.

But historically government IS the per se oppressor of the the poor.

13 posted on 07/01/2014 9:14:47 AM PDT by PapaNew
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