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To: Gigantor

If your total price of dinner and tip is the same, why is it unacceptable?

McDonalds is NOT self-service. Unless you are going in the back and cooking your own food and packaging it and ringing it up, someone is serving you, and they can get it wrong.

What makes you give “good service” to your employer? Does he give you tips when you provide good service, or are you evaluated and given a salary?

Tips are in fact an excellent way to handle the “good service” question, as opposed to surveys of customers to find out which waiters are good and which are bad.

Except: how do you keep from getting bad service? If the employer is just paying $2.15 an hour, and each waiter is then compensated for good service with bigger tips, doesn’t that mean a bad waiter will get paid less, but will remain employed?

How does the employer find out that a waiter needs to be replaced? We still need feedback to the owner for bad service. Unless the owner gets to see the tips from each waiter, only then we don’t know if bad tips mean bad service, or bad customers.

And in restaurants with tipping, I don’t pay until all the work is done, and I have inspected the work. Meaning I got to look at the food, the cleanliness, and the service. I ate the food, and know if it tasted OK or not. I know if it was prepared properly or not.

And I pay after that. And if the food was bad, I send it back and get it corrected, and if it isn’t corrected I refuse to pay for the part that was bad. So in what way is this different from the plumber? Yes, food does not have a warranty, but neither does the woman who washes the windows. If I get food poisoning from a restaurant, I can go back and sue them for it, so that is kind of like a warranty.

Do you tip the guy that does your oil change?


115 posted on 07/10/2014 11:36:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“McDonalds is NOT self-service. Unless you are going in the back and cooking your own food and packaging it and ringing it up, someone is serving you, and they can get it wrong.”

McDonald’s is self-service. You seem to be ignorant of the definition of self-serve restaurants, my Freeper friend.

You are not being waited on at the table at McDonald’s. Like any self-serve cafeteria, where you pick your own food out at the counter, and pay for it, and carry it to the table. I’m sure you actually do know the meaning of and difference between self-serve and waiter service.

“What makes you give “good service” to your employer? Does he give you tips when you provide good service, or are you evaluated and given a salary?”

This has zero to do with the concept of wait staff at a restaurant.

“how do you keep from getting bad service? If the employer is just paying $2.15 an hour, and each waiter is then compensated for good service with bigger tips, doesn’t that mean a bad waiter will get paid less, but will remain employed?”

A bad server will not make the income that a good server will. If the bad server is sound of mind, they just may make the connection between providing good service and larger tips—which is the very crux of this matter.

The rest of your post is filled with irrelevant ramblings.

I have tipped the guy doing my oil change, perhaps he has gone over and above the job, and I want to show my appreciation—with the full knowledge that that is not expected but certainly appreciated.

If, however, I come to find that the oil change guy did such a poor job that my engine is damaged, or he faked me out by charging me for a filter that wasn’t replaced, I can hold the shop responsible.

If a lousy waiter does something to ruin my dinner, my dinner stays ruined, whether I have to pay for it or not.

The system in place where wait staff earns the bulk of theor income from tips means that good service from wait staff benefits them, you, and the restaurant owner.

I am sorry that that system displeases you.


116 posted on 07/13/2014 4:03:16 AM PDT by Gigantor (The Fundamentally Transformed States of America)
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