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A Two-Page Form Spawns a Contraceptive Showdown
ny times ^ | 7-12-2014 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 07/13/2014 1:17:44 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

A two-page federal form has provoked a titanic clash between the government and many religious organizations.

The form allows some religious organizations to opt out of providing contraceptive coverage, which many insurers and group health plans are required to provide under the Affordable Care Act and related rules.

The opt-out sounds like a way to accommodate religious beliefs. But many religious employers like Wheaton College and the Little Sisters of the Poor are unwilling to sign the form. By signing it, they say, they would authorize their insurers or plan administrators to pay for contraceptives, including some that they believe may cause abortion.

Fights over the form are playing out in dozens of courtrooms around the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.nytimes.com ...


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I never thought Obama would be interested in the sex life of The Little Sisters of The Poor.
1 posted on 07/13/2014 1:17:44 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

do we need a form to get a Constitutional right?


2 posted on 07/13/2014 1:25:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Thank you for referencing that article Citizen Zed. Given the remote possibility that you have not seen the following excerpts from Supreme Court opinions that clarify that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes, you may find them interesting.

And for those federal Democrats and RINOs who argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that they can’t do something then they can do it, constitutionally indefensible Obamacare Democratcare such an example, the Supreme Court has addressed that foolish idea too. Powers not expressly delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, are prohibited.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

3 posted on 07/13/2014 1:44:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Citizen Zed

What a stupid Progressive douche ... they don’t have Prophet Mo’s people signing anything to opt out ... they got a bye for religious reasons ... think that would ring a bell with stupid?


5 posted on 07/13/2014 2:46:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Obama Administration: A conspiracy of corruption and incompetence.)
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To: GeronL
Thois article has a stupid premise: that the whole problem is the Sisters' obstinate refusal to sign a 2-page "mostly boilerplate" form.

Say some woman wants a gun to shoot her husband. The Constitution says she has a right to bear arms. So she goes to her employer and says, "Give me a gun to shoot my husband."

The employer says, "No, that goes against my conscience."

The woman says "You've got to. because I have a constitutional right. But I'll give you an accommodation. You can sign this 2-page "mostly boilerplate" form that requires somebody else to give me a gun."

"It's still against my conscience."

"How could it be? This makes no imposition on you! It costs you nothing! It's just signing a form!"


Oh, it's all too silly. The whole thing is such a crock.

6 posted on 07/13/2014 2:52:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cheese.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Only a Muzzie like Obama could invent such an intellectually and morally dishonest idea.

Just as Muzzies “game” Islam in order to borrow or hire a prostitute, this scheme games one’s moral objections.

1. You have to buy insurance.
2. You can say that you are opting out of part of it.
3. If you do opt out, your insurer automatically adds it back, and you pretend that you aren’t paying for it.

In Islam, this sort of thing is the norm. Only people with real moral objections would still object.


7 posted on 07/13/2014 2:56:12 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I totally agree


8 posted on 07/13/2014 3:06:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SampleMan

Well said.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 3:23:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cheese.)
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