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Microsoft decided to extort Windows 7 users too
semiaccurate.com ^ | Jul 14, 2014 | by Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 07/17/2014 9:17:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not content to blow both feet off with a shotgun, Microsoft is going for the kneecaps now by blackmailing it’s customers. If you are still dumb enough to use Windows, you are about have your wallet shaken down by Microsoft in a familiar yet still unwelcome way.We don’t feel the need to sugarcoat this much because the company’s behavior is so blatant and uncaring it is almost staggering. Worse yet the victims, that would be almost all Windows users, have only themselves to blame because the pattern has been well laid out for years now. Microsoft has been unapologetically blackmailing users for years, anyone who bought one of their products in the last few years should have known better.

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1 posted on 07/17/2014 9:17:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

Charlie again.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 9:18:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Linux, Linux, Linux.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:19 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: All
Says that is more profitable to

NOT FIX

the MALWARE VULNERABILITIRES!
4 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have Win7 Starter on my notebook - was thinking of putting Vista Home on it but afraid I’d loose my ASUS stuff like my wireless software ... or Xp ....


5 posted on 07/17/2014 9:25:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read the newspapers you are misinfo)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well. Ill get linux mint on a thumb drive, and only use windows for games then.


6 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:42 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s no bias in this trash article.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 9:27:23 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Talisker
I suspect they bribe all peripheral manufactures to NOT write drivers for their devices....,
8 posted on 07/17/2014 9:28:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Charlie or not, he does have a point. In order for MS to continue its profitability cycle, they have chosen this course, and although the description is only “basically” accurate, it's close enough to the truth to start corporate entities to begin evaluating alternative approaches/OS’s.

Most likely, MS will cave once again to the general public and continue providing “free: critical fixes to Window 7 for years to come, but that is no guarantee. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

9 posted on 07/17/2014 9:29:13 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: for-q-clinton

So what is your Malware protection?


10 posted on 07/17/2014 9:30:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You’d think a web site semiaccurate.com would be a clue to most people.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 9:33:42 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit. Running a peripheral device driver shop is as easy as being a farmer paid by the government to not plant certain crops.

And extra if you keep your mouth shut.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 9:34:15 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Semiaccurate seems to be a good name for that drivel.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 9:35:12 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Mmogamer
I am checking out this:

Robolinux

********************************EXCERPT*******************************

John Martinson has announced the release of Robolinux 7.5.5, the latest update of the Debian-based distribution that comes with a pre-configured VirtualBox for running Windows as a "guest" operating system:

14 posted on 07/17/2014 9:39:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: for-q-clinton

He is not a fan of Intel either.
Or of Nvidia’s shady practices.


15 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

With linux you pretty much dont need any.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 9:46:33 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: SkyDancer

“I have Win7 Starter on my notebook - was thinking of putting Vista Home on it but afraid I’d loose my ASUS stuff like my wireless software”

Set up another login account as administrator account and convert your convert account to a “limited” account. Do your work on the limited account and any sysadmin work on the administrator account. It’s impossible for changes to be made to the OS from the limited account, which means its impossible for a virus to infect the OS, though a virus CAN rarelhy infect the limited account, but in such a case, logoff the limited account, logon to the administrator account and run malwarebytes antimalware, and then let it delete whatever it finds.

That’s the ONLY security anyone needs for any OS since XP and it’s the only thing that actually works. NO antivirus actually works, though they do generally create havoc with false alarms and sucking your system resource and system performance dry.


17 posted on 07/17/2014 9:50:28 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mmogamer

And you can go just about anywhere, but keep personal data off of your storage,.


18 posted on 07/17/2014 9:50:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SeaHawkFan; Ingtar

semiaccutate is a pun for a website devoted to semiconductor news. It’s actually one of the best sites around for stuff like that.


19 posted on 07/17/2014 9:52:27 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have had printer calls where the printer - Lanier, Ricoh, HP etc worked in XP but not in Windows 7 and there were no drivers after they upgraded the OS. Other models may have a universal driver or say go to the Microsoft Update site to get a driver. It sometimes works but they will have to get a new printer when it does not.

I think these guys get together and figure how to boost sales.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 9:56:04 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Talisker

Zorin just released OS 9 LTS. I love it.


21 posted on 07/17/2014 10:21:05 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article:

With Windows 8.1 they did it again, if you didn’t upgrade from 8 to 8.1, you were cut off from security patches almost immediately.

From wikipedia:
Microsoft markets Windows 8.1 as an "update" rather than as a "service pack" or "upgrade".[199] However, Microsoft's support lifecycle policy treats Windows 8.1 similarly to previous Windows service packs: it is part of Windows 8's support lifecycle, and upgrading to 8.1 is required to maintain access to mainstream support and Windows updates after January 12, 2016.

2 years is not "almost immediately." I'm using W8 and I like it, and it is fully supported with security patches. Semiaccurate.com is semi-accurate, at best.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 10:32:12 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I started out on W/98SE it had bugs but even as a Novice user I could fix issues reasonably fast. From there I tried Windows/ME. I couldn't get the OS to stop writing to the HD long enough to do a disk scan and defrag. I went back to 98/2 even with the yearly reformat it was less hassle and more reliable.

I've bought three machines with XP. All of them the OS has held up. Between three machines only one reformat and then because granddaughter locked me out of the machine. XP was a workhorse, very easy to learn and adapt to, easy to resolve issues, easy to understand.

In March because of the cut off I bought a new machine with WINDERS 8 it's 8 I hate. If I had wanted an X-Box I would have bought one. The learning curve was weeks not hours. Commands hidden in obscure locations you had to go through a lot more steps to find anything. The worst part of it was I'm on dial up. Some Twits at MS thought a nearly 900MB upgrade as they called it was great.

My complaints? IE crashes constantly. IE doesn't like it when you use windows instead of TABs. The infernal CLOUD I like to have never figured out how to stop so I could use the machine too. Hard to read Fonts sizes in the places like My PC. The Peek a Boo annoying settings in the right side that show up when you don't want them and won't show up when you do. The stupid Start Page and the Hidden X to click out. Why? Some Nerd at MS pulls these stunts just to call it an upgrade? I miss XP.

WINDERS 8 will be the last dollar from me unless they get their act together and put out a quality product once again. W/8 was put out aimed at one specific consumer base the Tablet users. The NERDS also though Touch Screen on a Desktop was a good idea. The default Mail client was pathetic. Another annoying thing is on dial up with XP I could download and still access sites. But if the machine takes a notion it has to send something it becomes unusable. Uploads should have the option of "only when machine is idle". The good old MSCONFIG works but seriously who can figure it out once you get to System Configuration? You have no way of knowing what is doing what so you can do a Selective Start Up and Services TAB is a lot worse.

W/8 isn't user friendly. Computer Geeks who like to fool around for hours on end configuring their computer may love it but for many users W/8 is a nightmare.

I understand some things change in time. I also understand an OS can only be patched so many times. BTW W/8 patches in MB's exceeds what XP had in a lifetime by at least over half already. It's junk. It's a sorry OS that look like some high schoolers were the quality assurance testers and likely even the program writers.

I've avoided LINUX because people have said you'll spend a lot of time learning it, configuring it etc. Well at least it's FREE. MS corporate arrogance abandoned the consumer base who got it to number one to start with.

23 posted on 07/17/2014 10:35:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Pox

Extended support means free security patches, and they have currently committed extended support until 2020. So the article is flat out wrong.


24 posted on 07/17/2014 10:39:01 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: cva66snipe

There are plenty of choices.

List of Linux distributions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

List of BSD operating systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BSD_operating_systems

Debian Linux itself is fairly easy to install from the instructions at the site without being too heavy. Many other distributions are based on it. If your machine is not very new or powerful, the Xfce install is alright (XFCE: type of window manager, GUI, whatever—very light and fast).

It’s best to look around the site of any particular Linux distribution for familiarity (find the package archive for your version, various kinds of instructions, etc.). It’s all much easier than during the mid-’90s—easy as installing Windows, IMO, and much faster to install. The jargon is different from that of Windows and requires some familiarization along the way.

If you have plenty of computer power, prefer the utmost in ease of use and like to interface with many gadgets, maybe a distribution like Ubuntu would be the way to go. And there are many other choices.

Anyway, most who make the transition are glad that they did. Once familiar with a Linux system, the nuisances are far fewer.


25 posted on 07/17/2014 10:58:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the post. My win8.0 machine gets updates, so that part of the article is incorrect.

But look at the news of msoft layoffs as a sign of corporate health. Also, Balmer is gone along with the win8 designer- But their model is broken. MS wont disappear, just kind of tread water.

Running as a non-administator is good security practice no matter the operating system.

Ubuntu Linux on a usb drive works well for me- but so does windows 8.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 11:17:28 PM PDT by quimby
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To: minnesota_bound
Other models may have a universal driver or say go to the Microsoft Update site to get a driver. It sometimes works but they will have to get a new printer when it does not.

Fortunately most laser printers out there will work just fine with HP drivers - the LaserJet 4 used to be my goto, but since it was discontinued after XP I've since switched to the LJ 5200 PCL driver. It typically doesn't matter what brand the printer is, HP drivers seem to have a 'keep it simple' reliability to them.

27 posted on 07/17/2014 11:23:08 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: catnipman

Thanks.


28 posted on 07/17/2014 11:27:43 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: familyop

Thanks I’ll take a look maybe get something loaded into one of my old machines to get used to it. MS needs to get it’s act together. W8 was a disaster they refuse to admit just like VISTA and W/ME were. If MS follows it’s pattern 9 might work. It seems every other OS that MS puts out is dysfunctional trash ware and that forces them to clean up their act for the next one.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 11:32:18 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Carbonsteel
But can you really trust the guy?


30 posted on 07/17/2014 11:38:12 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You make less profit by selling shoddy product long term. Security conscious users have moved to Linux because MS make poor business decision. IF they think they make more profit selling insecure product, then they’re wrong


31 posted on 07/17/2014 11:52:33 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Charlie has some ax to grind.

Microsoft has its flaws but, what doesn’t.

There are tradeoffs for any OS and as far as I’m concerned I’d rather be in charge of my firewalls and other means of defense.

If Microsoft didn’t suck today, one day they would be proven vulnerable, while everyone dreamed of sugar plum fairies, only to awaken to A Nightmare on Elm street.

If Microsoft were another automobile company I’d be very happy to see their ass kicked but, they only make the engine, with other hardware providers building their version of the latest and greatest.

Apple, on the other hand, builds the whole enchilada and we rightfully expect better control over the finished product, the same as we would expect Enzo Ferrari to have final approval on something beautiful.

still, I fooking hate learning new things and if I switch to Apple I’d lose time tinkering, whereas with Microsoft I just build on what I already know.

I’m fine with “It Smells Inside” and MicroCrap.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 12:58:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: MrShoop
Extended support means free security patches, and they have currently committed extended support until 2020. So the article is flat out wrong.

Yes. Here is the Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ:

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

Free security update support continues in the extended support phase.

33 posted on 07/18/2014 12:58:59 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Too many inaccuracies and outright lies to even bother. The claim that making 8 users upgrade to 8.1 is a shakedown? It's a free upgrade! Sheesh.
34 posted on 07/18/2014 1:52:43 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: cva66snipe

The best way to find out if linux is for you is to download the image from Ubuntu, burn a bootable CD, the select the “run from CD option.” You can run full linux sessions without having to commit.

I’m running 8.1 now but was not impressed with the interface or the way they hid the settings I regularly change. So far, though, it’s as stable as my XP machine but I have a decent broadband connection and vet all my apps carefully.


35 posted on 07/18/2014 2:01:28 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Antonello

That’s because HP created a standard language, PCL, that is used in almost all laser printers. Any driver for a printer that uses PCL should support the basic functions of any PCL printer. I remember in my DOS programming days there were a couple of programs that would convert the PCL text into a TIFF file that we could then send to a fax card. Our app would produce the output to a text file, then this program would pick it up, convert it, then fax it to the client. The program was run from a command line with the fax number and file name as arguments.


36 posted on 07/18/2014 2:07:30 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Mmogamer

I’m considering putting Mint on as a primary OS and using VM to run Windows for the very few areas where Windows is “necessary”.


37 posted on 07/18/2014 3:52:09 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

38 posted on 07/18/2014 3:52:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: for-q-clinton

A shill for Linux?


39 posted on 07/18/2014 4:01:32 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Articles like this perhaps give a bit more insight into the Apple-IBM alliance announcement from earlier this week. The opportunity for OS X in the Enterprise has never been greater given these ongoing shenanigans. With IBM providing on-site support that's likely the missing piece to tip the scales for many Enterprise customers who are looking for a way out of the "Windows trap" but don't want the risks and headaches of figuring it out on their own.

Given that one of the headline features of the upcoming Yosemite release is seamless application and workflow integration between OS X and iOS that plays well into the already significant iOS penetration in the Enterprise.

40 posted on 07/18/2014 4:37:21 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Malware bytes


41 posted on 07/18/2014 4:59:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

*yawn*

Semiaccurate is exactly that.

This is a non-starter. Microsoft’s been on desk for anti-trust and security issues before. You can’t fix personal habits, and Microsoft shouldn’t have to.

I’m far from an MS fanboy, but I am a Windows server engineer. I administer numerous domains including a mixed-mode Linux/Server 2012 domain in my own home. Microsoft products do what they do. If you want ironclad security, go buy a product from Symantec or use one of the myriad free AV programs and for God’s sake, be a little bit more discriminant about whose emails you open.

If grandma doesn’t normally send you emails with attachments, don’t open one when you get it!


42 posted on 07/18/2014 5:34:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: catnipman

Brilliant and simple.Would the effect of Office viruses and other viruses be contained in the limited space, which could be safely backed up to the admin space?


43 posted on 07/18/2014 5:34:25 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: 867V309
>>>>>>2 years is not "almost immediately." I'm using W8 and I like it, and it is fully supported with security patches.<<<<

Question: How many security patches for Windows 8 you installed since May 15 this year?

Methinks none. I also think you were not paying attention to what is going on.

Here's why. When 8.1 upgrade was released, I downloaded it the next day but could not install it(dreaded xxxx12 error message). As a result, I was NOT able to get ANY security patches for Windows 8 because there weren't any anymore. "Remedies" Microsoft provided on their website were completely useless and reminded me of Windows 3.11 time joke about an aviator being lost and landing on Microsoft campus.

As a desperate measure, I had to uninstall Windows, install fresh Windows 8, dowload and apply 96 (!) patches and then install Windows 8.1 upgrade, and all my software applications.

What a waste of time. Because of the Microsoft shoddy product, I had to spend the entire Saturday working on this. My time is worth at least $400, more than Microsoft charges for Windows. Good thing is I was able to do it alone and not having to pay someone to do it for me.

If you are still on Windows 8.0 your PC is at risk.

44 posted on 07/18/2014 6:36:16 AM PDT by DTA
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To: Squawk 8888
>>>>>>The claim that making 8 users upgrade to 8.1 is a shakedown? It's a free upgrade! Sheesh.<<<<<

Many users with Florida temperature IQ will not be able to apply the upgrade because the upgrade does not work on many machines.

If you don't know what I am talking about, Bing is your friend :-) Search for error 80073712". Perfect example how useless Microsoft help is.

45 posted on 07/18/2014 6:41:21 AM PDT by DTA
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To: for-q-clinton
Oh no, no bias at all.

</sarc>

Birdcage liner.
46 posted on 07/18/2014 6:49:19 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Talisker
I recommend Linux Mint 17 KDE GUI version. It is easy to install. Once installed on a hard drive, you can duplicate that hard drive and move to just about any other computer and the OS works fine. In my case it automatically found my wireless system with one click. The GUI is easy to navigate and looks a lot like Windows XP but faster.

Here is a link to Linux Mint 17. Click on the image:

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

47 posted on 07/18/2014 6:51:49 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

“Brilliant and simple.Would the effect of Office viruses and other viruses be contained in the limited space, which could be safely backed up to the admin space?”

I’m not that familiar with Office document viruses. I think most relate to macros, and once again, these can’t affect the system or its installed programs as long as executed within a limited user account.

Not sure what you mean about “backed up to admin space”. Macros are embedded in the documents themselves, but do no harm unless the document is opened. Copying the document to an administrator account would not be harmful (or particularly helpful for that matter), but if/when the document was opened in an administrator account, it would be harmful to the system.


48 posted on 07/18/2014 7:52:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
My Malware protection is Linux Mint 16 run in a VM via Virtual Box on WinXP (which has internet connectivity disabled).

I use XP as a utility OS only...games, Quicken, video/audio, etc. Email and Web access are via Linux. Works like a charm.

I'll never give another dime to Microsoft.

49 posted on 07/18/2014 8:12:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Watch out for Robolinux. Do the research. There is a size limit on your Windows boot partition. I forget what the limit is but my 250Gb C: drive is too large and I refuse to resize in order to get it to work. The limit is too small. I think it is 100Gb...but it is mentioned in the Robolinux install guides. Plus...forget gamimg on a XP VM.


50 posted on 07/18/2014 8:23:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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