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Trey Gowdys brilliant questioning makes absolute fool of law professor in IRS hearing
Biz Pac Review ^ | 8/1/2014 | Tom Tillison

Posted on 08/01/2014 6:55:52 PM PDT by Beave Meister

At his best Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., made short work of a Democrat-friendly law professor testifying before Congress, even offering him some “free litigation advice.”

The former prosecutor turned congressman was surgical in his questioning of Professor Charles Tiefer, who was brought before the House Judiciary Committee as an expert witness by Democrats — Tiefer has a history of being of service to the Democratic Party, according to The Blaze.

“Professor Tiefer, would you seat a juror who referred to your client as an obscene body part?” Gowdy asked in his opening question.

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KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; charlestiefer; congress; corruption; democrats; ericholder; fraud; gowdy; holder; irs; irsscandals; lerneremails; liberals; loislerner; obama; scandal; terygowdy; treygowdy
This is from The Blaze yesterday......Trey was magnificent. The Prof was a stubborn mule and looked like one too. He refused to give the correct answer because it clashed with his ideology.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/31/trey-gowdy-interrogates-democrat-invited-law-prof-on-irs-scandal-watch-what-happens-when-the-witness-doesnt-answer-his-questions/

1 posted on 08/01/2014 6:55:52 PM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/31/trey-gowdy-interrogates-democrat-invited-law-prof-on-irs-scandal-watch-what-happens-when-the-witness-doesnt-answer-his-questions/


2 posted on 08/01/2014 6:56:13 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Beave Meister

Absolute brilliant lawyer, able to ask the questions that make people squirm. Not much for lawyers, but this one has his act together.


3 posted on 08/01/2014 7:00:37 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Beave Meister

I wonder how long Trey survives?


4 posted on 08/01/2014 7:06:08 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: doc1019

“Absolute brilliant lawyer, able to ask the questions that make people squirm. Not much for lawyers, but this one has his act together.”

And this is the difference between that class of lawyers who are >skilled litigators< versus desk/paper jockeys. Contrast Gowdy with Darrell Issas’ amateurish “I’ll pretend I am a lawyer” questions which ALWAYS leave an obvious escape route to the the questionee/deponent. What is worse, his (Issas’) follow up questions ALWAYS generate YET ANOTHER escape route. Every questionee gets not just one, but two escape routes...for free! You can see it happening if you watch Issa question the panelist(s). And this why Issa gets nowhere with his questioning.


5 posted on 08/01/2014 7:08:00 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: doc1019

Trey Gowdy replaces John Boehnor as Speaker of the House in 2015.
And/or is elected POTUS in 2016.

We can all still dream, right?


6 posted on 08/01/2014 7:10:44 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Beave Meister

The professor was a complete hack.


7 posted on 08/01/2014 7:12:18 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: doc1019
It's hard to lie and deceive after telling so many that remembering is impossible.
And one mistake gets you prison. Law professor, bah.
8 posted on 08/01/2014 7:13:43 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Beave Meister

Trey is such a stud. Looks like a geek but he carries the ball!!!


9 posted on 08/01/2014 7:16:10 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Beave Meister
You are not recognized, The gentleman from Georgia is NOT recognized!

Smack down!

10 posted on 08/01/2014 7:17:35 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Beave Meister

The professor had a bad hair day. And then Trey Gowdy lit his ass on fire.


11 posted on 08/01/2014 7:19:04 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Beave Meister

I have general disdain for lawyers but I’ll make an exception for Trey Gowdy.


12 posted on 08/01/2014 7:20:35 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: sarasmom

This country was built on dreams, and yes I would dream that someone like Gowdy would run. However, the MSM will never allow such a thing to happen and they have chosen our last couple of GOP Presidential candidates.


13 posted on 08/01/2014 7:21:13 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Beave Meister

!


14 posted on 08/01/2014 7:22:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" 0'Reid? d8-)
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To: Beave Meister

That was excellent. Trey Gowdy carved up that fool of a professor.


15 posted on 08/01/2014 7:26:01 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Beave Meister

Trey is going to be in Wichita tommorow to make an appearance with Mike Pompeo. I think I’ll stop by and cheer the man.


16 posted on 08/01/2014 7:32:29 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Truth is the enemy of our dysfunctional government.)
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To: x1stcav

“I wonder how long Trey survives?”

Hopefully he will die at home with his grown great grand children around his bed.

I really like the guy. He drags them into the water and doesn’t let them up for air. If all Republicans had his spine this country would not be in the shape it is in.


17 posted on 08/01/2014 7:36:04 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Beave Meister

Trey is one of the good guys


18 posted on 08/01/2014 7:36:45 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: BillyBonebrake

Gowdy’s hair, OTOH, seems to have found its moxie!


19 posted on 08/01/2014 7:36:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“And this is the difference between that class of lawyers who are >skilled litigators< versus desk/paper jockeys. Contrast Gowdy with Darrell Issas’ amateurish “I’ll pretend I am a lawyer” questions which ALWAYS leave an obvious escape route to the the questionee/deponent. What is worse, his (Issas’) follow up questions ALWAYS generate YET ANOTHER escape route.”

Kinda makes wonder if he actually wants the truth. I have noticed it also and it is not lack of skill so much as he doesn’t want to pen anyone down, the truth might come out. Actually he and his staff have to know that their questions and follow ups are weak. If you and I can see it, they have to know.


20 posted on 08/01/2014 7:42:17 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: BillyBonebrake
The professor had a bad hair day. And then Trey Gowdy lit his ass on fire.

Yes, he made the guy look like a total, complete idiot, but my question is, where do we go from here? When will the rhetoric stop, and the heads start to roll?

21 posted on 08/01/2014 7:50:40 PM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero plays a fiddle, while Obama plays Minnesota Fats)
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To: Beave Meister

Also posted here -about nine minutes before yours:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3187976/posts


22 posted on 08/01/2014 7:54:30 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzzle-em's trying to kill them-)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

That is indeterminable, as far as I am concerned. But I lean towards lack of skill as I have watched him (Issa) work several times....each time falling short. I can appreciate both views. But in Issa’s case, I believe it is ego-driven amateurism. Issa, if you read about him, has quite the blue-collar background. He’s enamored of himself and his position and office. In contrast and not even talking about litigation skill, Gowdy is rather self-effacing and even makes fun of himself at times and paints himself as a plain speaking country boy. But boy, he means business. It’s another piece of stark contrast between them.

Litigation questioning, as any good lawyer will tell you, is a fine art and is diametrically opposite to “winging it”. Issa wings it. I happen to know a bunch of lawyers and they all respect Gowdy, their comments are usually along the lines of “that was a skilled piece of lawyering” (referring to a YouTube’d questioning session that I linked them to. We, you and I, amateurs that we are, can see from the results of an Issa session, these holes that he leaves. This is a telltale sign of amateurism.

I’ve actually written Issa and urged him to take questioning lessons from Gowdy, or to have Gowdy prepare something of a question list...but for one, it is not a superficially-learned skill, and 2, Issa really isn’t that much of an intellectual. That’s not meant as an insult, I generally like the guy, but he is unaware that his ego is causing him to think he can pretend to be a lawyer. And in this case it’s potentially very damaging/destructive.


23 posted on 08/01/2014 7:58:33 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: MaxMax

My favorite part!


24 posted on 08/01/2014 8:01:59 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Old Yeller

Give Trey your best rendition of my “All y’all gather in here, it is time to HUNT!” call that goes like this: aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAARLHRLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo - - - - - - - - -


25 posted on 08/01/2014 8:07:17 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Beave Meister
With this skirmish Chairman Trey Gowdy has laid down a marker to all future witnesses: do not come before this committee unprepared or fronting an absurd and illogical position.

The comments which follow the video argue over whether the dustup actually advances the investigation. It has.

First, it has set the ground rules about what will be tolerated from witnesses. I think that announcement should be made that the video of this professor's performance will be made available to every student and every faculty member in his university. Let these academics know that their days of pontificating are over. Come before this committee as a propagandist and you will be publicly humiliated.

Second, Gowdy showed that he will not be interrupted and will not tolerate obstructionism from the Democrats. Again, a procedural observation but absolutely essential to a well ordered proceeding. We have seen what the Democrats will do in order to disrupt the proceedings even resorting to charges of racism. This cannot be tolerated. Gowdy shuts the disruption down in stentorian tones, "you are not recognized!"

Third, Gowdy showed that he will not permit Democrats to set the ground rules or the definitions by which the committee will proceed. Put another way, he will not permit them to structure a hearing that departs from common sense. Leftists, especially academic leftists, often win their arguments by changing definitions. Every trial lawyer knows that if you control the questions you control the answers. Gowdy knows that if you control the definitions you control the answers. This hearing will proceed applying standards for ethical conduct which are rational rather than those contrived for it by this academic.

Fourth, it is likely that this video clip will go viral and be picked up at least by Fox. Gowdy thus draws attention to the committee which the establishment media will seek to avoid. Gowdy's showmanship-yes that's part of his job too-draws attention to the committee's work which the media eventually will have to acknowledge.

Fifth, Gaddy has demonstrated once again that the guy has depth and an ability to think quickly on his feet. He has shown us that he plans his cross examination in advance and knows where he wants to go. He anticipates shenanigans from the other side and is ready to react. In addition to that, he is good at ad lib. and we can have confidence that unlike so many Republicans we have seen in the past Gowdy will conduct these hearings as though he were prosecuting crime and not permit them to disintegrate into Washington farce.


26 posted on 08/01/2014 8:11:33 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Beave Meister

Here’s some of the exchange => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXbyvFnQ8A0 It’s wicked!


27 posted on 08/01/2014 8:16:16 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Beave Meister

National reputations have been made in the past during such brilliant and lucid questioning of witnesses.

Gowdy is looking like he is headed for bigger things.


28 posted on 08/01/2014 8:46:11 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: x1stcav

What about his enemies? When do they draw their last breath?


29 posted on 08/01/2014 8:56:56 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Beave Meister

I want to see Trey Gowdy as President of the United States as soon as possible. He’s the real deal.


30 posted on 08/01/2014 8:57:09 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: nathanbedford
Dowdy was "glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife Glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife C'mon, hold on tight C'mon, hold on tight"

From Meatloaf's "Bat out of Hell Album." I think the Democrats will think that Gowdy is a Bat out of Hell when this is over.

31 posted on 08/01/2014 9:13:41 PM PDT by cpdiii (deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist. The constitution is worth dying for!)
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To: nathanbedford

Trey Gowdy is the epitome of a Southern gentleman, scholar and defiant rebel. He is definitely presidential material, but the elites will do everything to prevent it.


32 posted on 08/01/2014 9:17:02 PM PDT by varina davis (Gov. Rick Perry in 2016)
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To: Beave Meister

I like Gowdy a lot, but like the professor replying, “I’m trying to make the connection ...”, I wondered about the relevancy of comparing the admittedly foul-mouthed and hyper-partisan Lois Lerner to voi dire, or picking jurors.
If I wanted justice to get a fair shake, would I want her on a jury? No. Huh?
She’s not sitting in any jury box. She’s going to be sitting in front of a table.


33 posted on 08/01/2014 9:29:44 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Beave Meister

34 posted on 08/01/2014 9:39:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: doc1019

You guys must have been watching a different video. Rep. Gowdy asked some difficult questions, but he didn’t allow the witness to answer.

This video is a wash at the minimum, and a show of bullying as the left will say.


35 posted on 08/01/2014 9:46:57 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten

Oh, they will say that, as they fake heart attacks to avoid Gowdy’s questioning. Look for a lot of RATS to get super sick over the next couple months.


36 posted on 08/01/2014 9:59:11 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Beave Meister

Recently saw a very young Trey on one of TV’s Forensic File homicide cases when he was a prosecutor.


37 posted on 08/01/2014 10:30:06 PM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses, died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by idiots and traitors)
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To: MaxMax; kevslisababy
I liked the way Rep. Gowdy did not even look towards him, as if his existence was insignificant.
38 posted on 08/01/2014 10:33:44 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: Beave Meister

If I ever needed a lawyer I would want one like Trey Gowdy


39 posted on 08/01/2014 10:46:55 PM PDT by woofie
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To: tumblindice

Lois Lerner was the one who made decisions (supposedly unbiased) regarding the tax exempt status of groups that were a__holes and terrorists (according to her)


40 posted on 08/01/2014 10:53:41 PM PDT by woofie
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To: VanShuyten

The good professor had no answers that were not pure BS


41 posted on 08/01/2014 10:55:07 PM PDT by woofie
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To: sarasmom; xsmommy

I am dreaming right with you!!


42 posted on 08/02/2014 4:01:53 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

I agree with you completely except for one thing. I hope he has his dogs on his bed with him when the time comes.


43 posted on 08/02/2014 5:00:21 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: reasonisfaith

‘What about his enemies?’

They’re soulless ghouls and by definition are dead already.


44 posted on 08/02/2014 5:01:48 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: VanShuyten

Eric Holder is that you making a comment or is someone to stupid to understand?


45 posted on 08/02/2014 6:00:36 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: catnipman
I want to see Trey Gowdy as President of the United States as soon as possible.

Given a choice, I'd rather see Trey Gowdy as the AG in the administration of a fearless Conservative......................

46 posted on 08/02/2014 7:05:51 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: chiefqc

“Eric Holder is that you making a comment or is someone to stupid to understand?

Let’s see. Eric Holder (comma) is that you making a comment(comma) or is someone to(sic) stupid to understand?

Three errors in a short question. Is that you, Mongo?


47 posted on 08/02/2014 8:23:06 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Nifster
Trey is one of the good guys.

Unfortunately for us, he is almost one of a kind in congress.

48 posted on 08/02/2014 10:01:17 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: VanShuyten

Grammer corrections from a mac daddy sock puppet.


49 posted on 08/02/2014 11:26:02 AM PDT by chiefqc
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