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To: cripplecreek
The H atom is both the nucleus and the electron, not just the nucleus. When two H atoms approach each other the electrons do 'cross' each other. In fact, the two electrons both go around each of the nuclei (exchange) and produce a molecule consisting of two nuclei with 2 electrons 'buzzing around' them both. This forms the H2 molecular bond.

So, do the atoms touch? They not only touch but they merge. Do the nuclei touch? No, except under very unusual circumstances, but that is a very different quetion.

16 posted on 08/05/2014 6:57:51 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

It all makes a lot more sense, at least to me, when you realize that the “electron cloud” configurations that we see (1s, 2s, 2p, etc) are identical to patterns produced by standing waves. Which shouldn’t be surprising, since, quantum mechanics is just an offshoot of standard wave mechanics.

The electrons can cross paths, collaborate, be “shared”, etc, because we are talking about how waves interact, and not really about how some tiny particles interact. The difference between particle-waves and say, ocean waves, is that when the particle-waves interact, they can influence the position of what is producing the wave. So, the center of the wave (what we would think of as the electron “particle”) can be moved by the interactions of the waves that “particle” is emitting.

This allows phenomena like feedback loops to develop, and all the complex interactions of particles, atoms, molecules can develop from there. The waves naturally tend towards harmonious, stable configurations to oscillate with a minimum of interference, and while attempting to reach those configurations, they move their “particles” along with them into the complex configurations that we know.


21 posted on 08/05/2014 7:35:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: expat2

Is it the Coulomb Barrier that prevents the nuclei from actually touching?

If so then it’s probably a good thing.

Don’t touch it, don’t talk about touching it, don’t write songs about touching it!


28 posted on 08/05/2014 9:39:05 AM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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