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To: right-wing agnostic
I don't support term limits. I do support repealing the 17th amendment.

It's odd to see the same people who want to keep the right to vote for Senators also want term limits on them. It's the old "stop me before I kill again" argument.

Either keep the right to vote for someone for the Senate for as long as you want to keep sending them back, or eliminate the right to vote for Senators altogether and let the state legislature select the Senator. Then you vote for the legislature that you want.

But don't demand the right to vote for your Senator, but only let me do it once.

Presidential term limits are a post-17th amendment phenomenon. I wonder why we never had a 3rd term president until Roosevelt? Was it because the Senate no longer represented the states, and the states couldn't influence the federal government like they did just 20 years earlier?

House Representatives are too numerous to care, and their districts are too small to limit whom the locals wish to send to Congress. However, with the rise of the influence of national parties due to the need to raise campaign cash for 33 Senate elections every two years, there is a party trickle-down of money to the House by party members in the Senate. If you eliminate Senate elections, you dry up a major source of campaign funds that would naturally flow to House races, too.

Repeal the 17th amendment, and a natural term limit will be restored across all of the federal government.

-PJ

3 posted on 10/01/2014 11:14:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Concur 100%.

However, not until the masses are awakened to the screwing they have taken over past 100 years will any change be realized because, as stated so often, no congress critter will work to limit his or his colleagues power. So, until the NFL, NBA and Kardashians stop being the main quest of US brain power it ain't gonna happen.

5 posted on 10/01/2014 11:31:33 PM PDT by JParris
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To: Political Junkie Too
Interesting perspective. For those who think representative democracy is so great, why limit elections to congress? Why not popular majority elections for the president and federal courts?

Once FDR showed Congress who was boss, it was all downhill. Then as now, the Senate was the President's rubber-stamp, enabled entirely by the 17th. Few senators would risk their seats to cross the secular messiah sent to earth to save them from the Great Depression.

10 posted on 10/02/2014 2:00:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Like the idea, but I see nothing changing when the 9th and 10th are the abused red-headed step-children (pardon to the truly abused red-headed...)

When the Commerce Clause can bypass the rest of the Constitution, and the Courts routinely site case-law/internal-law vs. the roots in (or outside) the Constitution....

The 17th is only a symptom of the problem.


15 posted on 10/02/2014 10:35:34 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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