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Cleveland boy's death in police shooting declared homicide
Reuters ^ | 12-12-2014

Posted on 12/12/2014 10:59:03 AM PST by Citizen Zed

The death of a 12-year-old Cleveland boy fatally shot by police in November has been formally ruled a homicide, according to a county autopsy report released on Friday that found he was struck once in the abdomen.

Tamir Rice, who was black, was shot on Nov. 22 by a white police officer responding to a call of a suspect waving a handgun around in a Cleveland park. The weapon turned out to be a replica that typically fires plastic pellets. The sixth-grader died the next day.

The Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's autopsy report said Rice sustained a single wound to the left side of his abdomen that traveled from front to back and lodged in his pelvis.

The shooting came at a time of heightened national scrutiny of police use of force and two days before a grand jury declined to indict a white police officer in the Aug. 9 fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.

Rice was shot less than two seconds after the police car pulled up beside him in the park, police have said. They also released a security video of Rice in the park before and during the shooting.

Rice was 5 feet 7 inches tall and 195 pounds, according to the autopsy report.

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To: MrB

You would think they’d figure that one out by now.
I expect witness testimony to be all over the map.


21 posted on 12/12/2014 11:10:18 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Enterprise

Homicide is the official cause of death on state executions of death row inmates as well.


22 posted on 12/12/2014 11:10:20 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Crump and Company just struck gold again!


23 posted on 12/12/2014 11:10:40 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Drew68

It won’t be ruled negligent, accidental, or intentional. The final ruling will be that it was “justified” because the officer feared he could suffer death or great bodily injury.


24 posted on 12/12/2014 11:11:03 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Organic Panic

Thanks!


25 posted on 12/12/2014 11:11:27 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: PapaNew
You know you are really throwing cold water on Rooters inflammatory headline, don't you?
26 posted on 12/12/2014 11:12:54 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Citizen Zed

It was nice knowing you, Cleveland!

While this was obviously an accident, this is just going to become another excuse for a “shopping spree” when a grand jury rules that way.


27 posted on 12/12/2014 11:13:00 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Citizen Zed
The 911 caller could tell it was a kid with a toy. A passerby walked right by the kid who was waiving the toy around.

The only people who COULDN'T tell it was a kid with a toy were the “highly trained” gubbermint workers in blue uniforms who showed up on the scene blasting away.

And we're supposed to trust our personal safety to these clown?

28 posted on 12/12/2014 11:14:05 AM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Citizen Zed

Of course its a homicide. The question is whether or not it was justifiable.


29 posted on 12/12/2014 11:15:18 AM PST by VOR78
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To: WayneS

Literally homicide means man-slayer. Maybe we need new names for boy-slayer, girl-slayer, woman-slayer, tranny-slayer, ...


30 posted on 12/12/2014 11:15:39 AM PST by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Citizen Zed

Cop showed up and according to reports of eye witnesses the cop got out of the car and shot him within two seconds. But then, did the kid point that gun at the cop? That’s the question the DA will bring up.


31 posted on 12/12/2014 11:16:45 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Fido969

Apparently no one here has watched the video from the park CCTV. They came way too close to the kid if they thought he was dangerous. There was no interaction with the kid. He was assassinated.


32 posted on 12/12/2014 11:17:10 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: Citizen Zed

“Loehmann, who was identified as having fired the shots that killed Rice, joined Cleveland’s police force in March 2014. Previously, he spent five months in 2012 with the police department in Independence, Ohio, about 13 miles south of Cleveland, four of which were spent in the police academy. According to his personnel records, released by the city of Independence in the aftermath of the shooting, his supervisors described him as an emotionally unstable recruit with a demonstrable “lack of maturity” and an “inability to perform basic functions as instructed”, specifically citing an incident that occurred during a weapons training exercise.

An internal memo sent by Independence Police Department’s deputy chief to the city’s human resources manager described Loehmann as visibly “distracted and weepy” during gun range training and exhibiting a dismal performance in handling his gun, calling the incident a “dangerous loss of composure”. The memo concluded, “Individually, these events would not be considered major situations, but when taken together they show a pattern of a lack of maturity, indiscretion and not following instructions, I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies.”


33 posted on 12/12/2014 11:17:34 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Fido969

In that video, there were occasionally people walking by but the kid was by himself. The police arrive by driving through the park and stop within a few feet of the kid and shoot. This could go the race baiter’s way depending on what else comes out I guess.


34 posted on 12/12/2014 11:17:43 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: BillM
The kid had no chance. The cop car rolled up to a few feet and the cop on the passenger side just shot him. Watch the video.

I can't recall if the photo I saw was the actual "gun" that the kid had or if it was identical to it...or close to identical.If the photo I saw was even close to looking like the one the kid had I say "no culpability".

Of course this is a sad case.And it should be obvious that it bears *no* resemblance to Tayvon or Gentle Giant.Parents should warn their kids about stuff like this.

35 posted on 12/12/2014 11:18:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: DonaldC

Killing an enemy in battle is homicide.

Justifiable homicide.

As is killing someone in self-defense.


36 posted on 12/12/2014 11:19:09 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Citizen Zed

This was just a TERRIBLE accident. I have no doubt in my mind that officer would take that shot back, if he could.

I gotta say though, with or without the orange plastic on them, I could EASILY spot a toy gun. Of course, I wasn’t there, and I have no idea what the lighting was like, or how the boy was acting with it.

Just tragic.


37 posted on 12/12/2014 11:19:45 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Personal Responsibility

What’s a cop supposed to do? Wait to get shot?
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That just may be the answer. No shooting until at least one of them have been hit. No. That will not work. That would mean the cops out numbered the poor victim.

Damn. This is hard.
Maybe spot them two cops before they shoot back.


38 posted on 12/12/2014 11:20:11 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Enterprise

Exactly. It doesn’t mean anyone is guilty.

Its just tragic for everyone involved.


39 posted on 12/12/2014 11:20:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Cleveland kid shot Accident???
40 posted on 12/12/2014 11:21:06 AM PST by BillM (.)
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