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To: Pikachu_Dad

I was open minded up until 5 or more women came forward.
Cosby shows a pattern and most of this happened at a time when shame was on the woman for everything and there we no DNA science.


20 posted on 12/15/2014 4:19:36 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Incorrect.

DNA was being used in the U.S. In the late 1980’s. The first conviction in the U.S. was in 1987.

So there was DNA science.

However, none of these women made a timely complaint to the police, so there was no DNA evidence obtained.

Had these women reported a crime to the police, and had DNA evidence been obtained, then that DNA evidence could now be retested with modern methods in a ‘reverse innocence project’.

Quote:
“In one of the first uses of DNA in a criminal case in the United States, in November 1987, the Circuit Court in Orange County, Florida, convicted Tommy Lee Andrews of rape after DNA tests matched his DNA from a blood sample with that of semen traces found in a rape victim.10”


22 posted on 12/16/2014 12:21:26 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: A CA Guy

Numbers is all it takes for you?

Therre is no pattern here.

Take Beverly Johnson. When she complained of being woozy, Cosby ‘drug her out of the house and put her in a cab’.

When asked if she was raped, she said NO.

When asked if she had drunk his drink, she said she had only taken a sip or two.

Nobody has stated what drug they are claiming was Cosby used.

But the clsimed amount of drink drunk appears to be too small a dose of anything to make her ‘woozy’

And the onset of symptoms she claims was immediate. That seems to be far too quick an effect for most likely drugs.

Her story kind if ends there. Woman passed out in a cab is hinted at, but she is vague on details.

Where is the Taxi driver or Hotel bell hop who dealt with the alleged passed out actress?

And then there is the problem of the age of the alleged incident. When was it? Some nebulous date twenty eight years ago?

We have no specific allegation of any merit.
No direct physical evidence.
No supporting evidence.
The Statute of limitations on this claim have long since expired on any potential criminal charges.
The Statute of limitations has long since run out on any civil charges.

What we are left with is just some hot air !

Do we have any supporting calender enteries? work log books? A private journal written long ago? A letter to a mother or father? A photo with Cosby?

WHERE IS THE SUPPORTING EVIDENCE.


23 posted on 12/16/2014 12:36:53 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: A CA Guy

Really? The ‘shame on the woman’ was what?

Men have being convicted of rape for a long, long, long time now.

Here is a falsely accused man, Clarence Brandley, who was convicted of rape in 1981. He was eventually exhonerated by the DNA evidence taken in the case.

“Clarence Lee Brandley (born September 24, 1951) is a black man who, in 1981, while a janitor at a high school in Conroe, Texas, was wrongly convicted of the rape and murder of Cheryl Dee Fergeson, a 16 year-old student. Brandley was held for nine years on death row. After lengthy legal proceedings and community outcry, that eventually ended in the Supreme Court of the United States, Clarence Brandley was freed in 1990. After his release, Brandley was involved in further legal proceedings over child support payments that had accrued over his time in prison, and ultimately with an unsuccessful $120 million lawsuit against various agencies of the State of Texas.”


25 posted on 12/16/2014 12:42:32 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: A CA Guy

Do you not remember the 1980’s?

There were plenty of sex abuse scares going on back then.

The little Rascals Day care case was one of the more notorious cases from that time period.

http://www.littlerascalsdaycarecase.org


26 posted on 12/16/2014 12:45:26 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: A CA Guy

Or the McMartin Preschool case?

“Buckey’s ordeal began in 1983, when the mother of a 2 1/2-year-old who attended the McMartin preschool in Manhattan Beach, Calif., called the police to report that her son had been sodomized there. It didn’t matter that the woman was eventually found to be a paranoid schizophrenic, and that the accusations she made — of teachers who took children on airplane rides to Palm Springs and lured them into a labyrinth of underground tunnels where the accused “flew in the air” and others were “all dressed up as witches” — defied logic. Satanic-abuse experts, therapists and social workers soon descended on the school and, with a barrage of suggestive, not to say coercive, questioning techniques (lavishly praising children who “disclosed,” telling those who denied the abuse that they were “dumb,” introducing salacious possibilities that children had never mentioned), produced increasingly elaborate and grotesque testimonials from young children at the school.

“Believe the children” was the sanctified slogan of the moment — but what it came to mean, all too often, was believe them unless they say they were not abused. It didn’t matter that no trace of the secret tunnels was ever found, that no physical evidence corroborated the charges (a black robe seized by the police as a Satanic get-up turned out to be Peggy’s graduation gown), that none of the kiddie porn the abusers were supposedly manufacturing ever turned up, despite an extensive investigation by the F.B.I. and Interpol, that no parents who stopped by during the day had ever noticed, say, the killing of a horse. It didn’t matter that most child abuse — which after all does exist in real and horrifying form — takes place not in day-care centers but in the home, indeed within the family. The prosecution charged forward nonetheless, with a seven-year trial that became the longest and, at a cost of $15 million, the most expensive criminal trial in American history. It resulted in not a single conviction, though seven people were charged in the McMartin case, on a total of 135 counts — just a series of deadlocks, acquittals and mistrials. Buckey served two years in jail, and her son, Raymond, served five. They spent their life’s savings on lawyers’ fees and in the end went “through hell” and “lost everything,” as she put it after her 1990 acquittal.

Yet even now, the legacy of McMartin and other cases like it (Wee Care in Maplewood, N.J.; Little Rascals in Edenton, N.C.; Fells Acres in Malden, Mass.) is with us. It’s with us — this is the sad part — in policies that discourage day-care workers and teachers from hugging children or from changing diapers without a witness, lest they be accused of something untoward. It is also with us — this is the good part — in improved methods of questioning young witnesses.”


27 posted on 12/16/2014 12:47:15 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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