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Vanity: Overrated [5 claps], Overrated [5 claps]. Vaunted SEC West 2 - 4 Bowl Season
Vanity ^ | Me January 2, 2014

Posted on 01/02/2015 5:39:29 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Snowbelt Man

This is playoff via committee.................Kinda like government programs..................


21 posted on 01/02/2015 7:58:43 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Agreed. Still better than BCS but at least if you expand it to 16 teams - 2 and 3 loss teams have less to complain about if they don’t get in. Plus, it gives teams that lose a game or two due to injuries or turnovers or whatever a chance to still compete. Like I said, we see it all the time in our high school playoffs. Another thing it does is make teams more willing to schedule quality opponents because they know that one or two losses will not automatically eliminate them.


22 posted on 01/02/2015 8:04:58 AM PST by Snowbelt Man (ideas have consequences)
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To: Snowbelt Man

One would think with all these different ‘Bowl’ games around the country, they could assemble a real playoff structure, and it would increase viewership as well....................Yeah, I know I’m dreaming..................


23 posted on 01/02/2015 8:36:00 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Buck-I-Guy

really...at what Big Ten school was he the head coach?


24 posted on 01/02/2015 8:38:59 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: C19fan

Thankfully, for the teams outside the SEC, the SEC beats the hell out of each other all season long before the bowl games. They do it to make bowl season more competitive....at least for one year out of every ten.


25 posted on 01/02/2015 8:56:08 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Tulane
"Ohio State is now 2-9 against the Sec in bowl games."

Technically TOSU is 1-10 against the SEC in bowl games. The Bucks had to vacate a win against Arkansas in 2010 due to "tattoo gate". Oddly enough though, over the years the Buckeyes are 8-0 against Oregon.

26 posted on 01/02/2015 9:08:35 AM PST by buckalfa (Too many evenings spent at the North Heidelberg back in 1968)
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To: C19fan

OK. You get one year to win. The SEC is nice that way.

See you again in 2025.


27 posted on 01/02/2015 9:15:01 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: Tulane

“Ohio State is now 2-9 against the Sec in bowl games. As a famous SEC coach once said, act like you been there before, son...”

Well stated. PLEASE stick anyone of these ‘big’ 10, westcoast or otherwise teams in the SEC West for ONE entire season... they couldn’t reach .500 and they wouldn’t be in any shape to win a bowl if they did.


28 posted on 01/02/2015 9:24:39 AM PST by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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To: Red Badger

AND the coach of Ohio State is a former SEC coach..........................

Who is a former Ohio State coach...

...and the Dominant SEC Coach he beat was also, briefly, and longer a Michigan State coach.


29 posted on 01/02/2015 9:26:31 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Don’t forget Suburban Meyer’s success at Bowling Green!
And Saban’s at Toledo!


30 posted on 01/02/2015 9:29:34 AM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: lepton

Can’t any of these guys hold down a job?.......................;^)


31 posted on 01/02/2015 9:30:29 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: God luvs America

Meyer developed his hc chops at Bowling Green!
The SEC gig was just to experience nice winters, LOL.


32 posted on 01/02/2015 9:31:33 AM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: Red Badger

One would think with all these different ‘Bowl’ games around the country, they could assemble a real playoff structure,


That was never the point of the bowl games, and they aren’t owned by the NCAA. The Rose Bowl, for example, is owned by the Pasadena Tournament of Roses Association. It is an outgrowth of the Parade, and accompanying fair...not the other way around.

Pasadena, being the Indiana Colony of Pasadena, added an exhibition game to their spectacle between a prominent college where they were, and a prominent college from where they were from. They spent more than a century building this up. For what reason would they want to give this up so someone else can take their *century* of work and repurpose it to their detriment?


33 posted on 01/02/2015 9:40:22 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: nascarnation

that’s why he went from Bowling Green to Utah! LOL...


34 posted on 01/02/2015 9:47:57 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: C19fan

You mad bro?


35 posted on 01/02/2015 9:48:46 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: apostoli

Make any of the SEC play their bowls as Home games at Big 10 stadiums in January, and you’d see blow outs the other way...even worse than the Big 10 gets when the play in Louisiana, Florida, Florida, Florida, Texas, and Southern California in January.

Until those are happening, the dice are loaded one way. That OSU was able to go to Louisiana and outplay a team from Alabama shows OSU was a LOT better...though this time it appears the heat wasn’t jacked up in the dome to make the home field advantage even worse.


36 posted on 01/02/2015 9:50:02 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 38special

Nah. Just some good-natured teasing. The SEC has been so dominant for so long the rest of the nation needs to let off some steam this year.


37 posted on 01/02/2015 9:50:55 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
The so-called mighty SEC West was embarrassed this bowl season...Stop scheduling directional schools, schools made up of choir boys like Incarnate Word and Presbyterian, and FBS opponents.
Over the past 10-15 years, I think your argument is all wet. This year, you can make the argument that the SEC was overrated. Nevertheless, you can make a much more persuasive argument that the Big 10 and Big 12 in particular have been consistently overrated as conferences for the last 15-20 years, perhaps longer.

Unfortunately, it does not pay for schools in the SEC to schedule tough out of conference opponents. Some of those SEC schools have never done much of that. Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, and Mississippi St, in particular, rarely have scheduled tough out of conference opponents. Occasionally they have, but not year-in and year-out. Tennessee, Florida, LSU, and probably a few others always have scheduled at least one tough non-conference opponent almost every year. Georgia has seen their out of conference schedule in recent years become much more difficult with the rise of Clemson and Georgia Tech programs. Florida always has FSU on the schedule, and occasionally has scheduled Miami.

The pressure in the SEC is to add yet another conference game - from 8 now to 9 perhaps. That will put enormous pressure on teams like Tennessee who do not have to schedule a tough out of conference opponent but do routinely (UCLA, Oregon, Oklahoma, Miami, Notre Dame, etc.). Teams like Florida and Georgia are going to want to drop FSU and Clemson, perhaps. So, unfortunately, you will probably see less games with tough out of conference opponents.

38 posted on 01/02/2015 10:27:42 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: apostoli

If you think that teams like Ohio State, TCU, or Oregon wouldn’t finish over .500 in the SEC West, I don’t know what to say. The events of the past couple of days have shown that the power of the SEC West was mostly self proclaimed bluster and preseason overrating. You won 2 games: against a 6-6 Texas team and a middle of the pack West Virginia team. But, let me guess, you guys weren’t trying.


39 posted on 01/02/2015 10:52:08 AM PST by wrcase
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To: C19fan

How ‘bout them Hawkeyes!


40 posted on 01/02/2015 1:04:52 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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