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Anyone read Grossman’s book? Is this analysis correct?
1 posted on 01/28/2015 6:45:34 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed
In a country where innocent, unarmed, mostly black Americans keep getting killed, it’s a pernicious worldview to hold.

Leave it to Slate to hijack the metaphor.

2 posted on 01/28/2015 6:49:42 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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It’s proved particularly durable with gun rights groups. With the release of American Sniper, it has reached its largest audience yet.

Hence, all the anti-America sniping from The Left about American Sniper

3 posted on 01/28/2015 6:51:11 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The sheepdog speech was standart when I entered the military under Carter. I imagine that it goes back to at least the first World War.

This is from Slate, and the girbilism there is of the Wikipedia variety. Do not ever expect them to actually read books to research anything.


4 posted on 01/28/2015 6:52:17 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Infantry men were using this analogy in the 1960s. It is not new with Lt. Col. Grossman. Slate is wrong again, surprisingly.


5 posted on 01/28/2015 6:54:27 AM PST by ricmc2175
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The Left will endlessly try to understand the wolf, sympathize with the wolf, identify and live vicariously through the wolf, and do all they can to protect the wolf. The task of the sheepdogs is very complex. They must not only defeat the wolf but it is necessary to root out their supporters.


6 posted on 01/28/2015 6:54:30 AM PST by allendale
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To: Citizen Zed
"In a country where innocent, unarmed, mostly black Americans keep getting killed, it’s a pernicious worldview to hold."

wrong. In a country where innocent black and white citizens are butchered on a daily basis by the feral urban predator class the speech is particularly appropriate.

8 posted on 01/28/2015 6:58:11 AM PST by circlecity
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The problem with liberals as
Sheep dogs is that they have developed a taste for lamb...


10 posted on 01/28/2015 7:02:49 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"wolf/sheep/dogs/sheep..it ain't only a metaphor, it's life..unknown, only to Liberals'

11 posted on 01/28/2015 7:07:57 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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This line of reasoning cannot be stopped until we are willing to argue that these radicals want young blacks to die in order to further their own power.


12 posted on 01/28/2015 7:21:38 AM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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You mistake race baiting for analysis. And there is ample evidence that stupid is heritable since the morons that wrote this crap are brothers.


13 posted on 01/28/2015 7:31:04 AM PST by jwalsh07
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I was introduced to this analogy in the police academy in 1987.

Leave it to Slate to hijack and mis-represent.


14 posted on 01/28/2015 7:33:57 AM PST by Abundy
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Oh look...the Cummings brothers have formed their own flock of sheep.


15 posted on 01/28/2015 7:38:52 AM PST by moovova
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I can remember it from my childhood so I would say it is older then 2004.

Not the speech but the analogy

17 posted on 01/28/2015 7:46:38 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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This is a crock of shiite from a pencil-neck, who has likely never been in a schoolyard fight!


18 posted on 01/28/2015 7:53:50 AM PST by old school
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He encourages sheepdogs to view their surroundings with fear and paranoia.

This is the constant meme of the left: right-wingers are fearful & paranoid.

There will come a day when we can beat our swords into plowshares; but that day has not yet come...

19 posted on 01/28/2015 8:08:00 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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The sheep cannot tell the sheepdogs from the wolves. Witness the fellow attacked at the Walmart last week when a person simply spotted him carrying a holstered firearm.


20 posted on 01/28/2015 8:48:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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Read it, and have heard Grossman speak at an Air Force JAG Keystone Conference a few years ago. He’s a military psychologist who also coined the term, “killology” - also the name of his website, IIRC. I was thoroughly impressed with him live, and the book is excellent. One money quote: “If you are legally authorized to carry a gun and you step out your front door without it, you have chosen to be a sheep.”

Colonel, USAFR


21 posted on 01/28/2015 9:01:27 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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Leftists, I’m sure, HATE that analogy.

They don’t like to think of themselves as sheep, or wolves, and they sure know they aren’t sheepdogs.

Deep down, I’m sure they understand that what they believe is detrimental to human prosperity,
but they hold on so tightly to their self-righteousness through their advocacy that they can’t give it up.


22 posted on 01/28/2015 9:03:33 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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