Posted on 02/26/2015 9:19:09 AM PST by w1n1
These pistol shooting drills from the Russian Special Forces are off the hook. It's something that you're not going to see in the U.S. These drills are for the advanced gun toting folks that sleep and breathe carrying guns 24/7 not for the norm. Again Warning do not try these drills at home.
Here's an accidental discharge while doing this crazy drill and he's a pro. See the rest of this crazy Russian SF drills here.
Pity the Russians and Ukrainians are engaged in a fratricidal war. If they must fight (and they are good warriors), they ought to direct their efforts against the Islamic jihadists who are the real threat to their common civilization and culture.
Agreed.
Silly and largely useless tricks. Ballistic sleight of hand that has very little real-world functional use, and at best only looks ‘cool’ but in reality is just dangerous fooling around. The best pistol users in the world - the French GIGN, Germany GSG 9 and US Delta - don’t waste time engaging in such ‘drills.’ Not that they cannot (Delta’s hostage rescue training at times requires team mates to play the role of hostages in the Kill House, sitting still as their team mates rounds impact targets a short distance away) ...but their training has a purpose. What you’re seeing in the video however is simply buffoonery.
Later
I was taught there is no such thing as an "accidental discharge." It is best described as a "negligent discharge."
Yeah, except the guy in the video was Larry Vickers, delta for 15 years. And he didn’t exactly share your opinion.
Russian Special Forces is famous for useless stunt videos, and isn’t Larry Vickers the video host, and doesn’t he say that he does not condone the exercises and continue to describe them as over the top, I would say that for the host of his show, he does gently belittle the drill without destroying his video product.
Your Fellow pro-Russia activist/propagandist wetpheonix claimed to be in the FSB, and linked me to this video as telling me which Russian unit he served in.
Hmmm, Larry Vickers was one of the designers of the HK45 pistol.
I only watched the clips presented here, but I would say it is far from buffoonery.
Recognizing a threat from behind is very hard...most suffer from tunnel vision. Especially if the threat isn’t presented every drill. Good exercise.
Even the discharge into the ground...operator turns to deal with threat from behind, makes physical contact with weakhand, and sympathetic discharge with right but the muzzle is arguably in a safe direction (ground). If a threat a quick rock into position and the operator is good to go.
Having someone fire a gun near you, so you see and feel and hear everything can help condition you. The noise, blast, image can all be petrifying causing the operator to freeze.
From what I see far from buffoonery.
“Russian Special Forces?” The individuals in the graphics are uncoordinated fat boys. Soldiers don’t look like that.
Some of the techniques used may have some real world usefulness as far as induced stress response management are concerned, but there are other safe ways to carry out the same or other similar drills without injury...
Force on force is useful in training to manage stress response (caveman hands!) and can be conducted safely with protective gear and airsoft pistols...
I realize the element of real danger is not present in airsoft training, so does not have the same level of fear of injury/death use of live ammo has, but airsoft is a better way to demonstrate real world type confrontations and how to respond effectively without the risk of serious injury or death...And unlike the Russians who apparently accept the risk of death as part of their training, most Americans do not...
Gabe Suarez and others conduct “force on force” training using airsoft, and airsoft training is part of my personal training regimen...
Parlor tricks
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.