Posted on 02/27/2015 1:50:59 PM PST by neverbluffer
Can someone please answer a question for me?
We have been groomed over the years by the liberal crowd to believe that illegal aliens entering this country (illegally of course) is not a criminal offense, only a civil matter.
However, the following code of laws regarding immigration state clearly:
8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who
(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or
(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.
Reading this, it clearly appears to be criminal and the consequences are fines and imprisonment. This would negate the propaganda we are being fed that it is only a civil matter.
Comments Please?
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Silly little details.
Looks Criminal as hell to me . But watch Boner fold over the next hour and you will see a real criminal.
We have been groomed over the years by the liberal crowd to believe that illegal aliens entering this country (illegally of course) is not a criminal offense, only a civil matter.
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No we haven’t...
we’ve always known it was a criminal offense...
and nobody has “groomed” me to believe anything...
Illegal aliens are not immigrants and are breaking the law (criminal type) if they enter the USA...
if it was just a civil law they would not have to be deported...
(Is this some new type of subterfuge by the illegal alien enablers ???)
Make the Rats take Hope and change to Mexico so we all want to move there.
You are correct.
Federal misdemeanor 1st offense, federal felony 2nd offense.
The fact that it has a fine associated with it does not make it a civil infraction if you only get fined. That’s where the civil penalty BS came from.
We need to upgrade and tighten those penalties, and stiffen the penalties for employing them (to include jail time.) Then we need to make them ineligible for ANY benefits.
Remember, the immigration laws are not broken. The Progressives disagree with them so they use the terminology “broken” to con the uninformed illiterate masses and the MSM. If they really think the laws are “broken” then we should legislate immigration laws similar to those of Mexico ... the Progressive whining would be unbearable.
Entering the United States illegally is a crime. But only about half of the illegal aliens in the U.S. entered illegally; the other half entered legally (usually on a two-week tourist visa) and then didn't leave. Those illegals did not commit a crime but are subject to civil deportation.
And this is the half that concern me most being they could be from anywhere in the world.
When an illegal climbs the fence, he or she must end up somewhere. They are not just “illegals at large” and therefore a problem for all of us. They are problems for the specific states where they reside.
So why is illegal immigration not a States Rights problem? Why can’t the state just tell the feds to piss up a rope and do their own arresting, tracking and deporting? Congress gets to set the rules for naturalization but the rest is admin and law enforcement.
Just wondering. I know the states have been mostly neutered but if I was a governor, I’d be kicking ass and taking names.
There would have to be a governor serious about it to the point of being willing to face retaliation from the feds. This would require being backed up by his legislature.
No takers I see. Talkers only.
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