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Make the Confederacy's Defeat a National Holiday (Hurl)
New Republic ^ | April 5, 2015 | Brian Beutler

Posted on 04/06/2015 11:47:50 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: X Fretensis
By agreement reached in the 1880s, Forts in the old Confederacy were to be named only after Confederate Officers.

Do you have a reference for that?

Fort Myer in Virginia and the former Fort McClellan in Alabama would have been exceptions.

61 posted on 04/06/2015 3:33:16 PM PDT by x
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To: FirstFlaBn

“This was not a squirmnish between states, it was an attack on the US, by treasonous states.”

Beyond hopeless.


62 posted on 04/06/2015 3:40:26 PM PDT by odawg
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To: x

Fort Campbell (KY/TN) is named for William Bowen Campbell, former TN governor who opposed secession, who was very briefly a Union general during the War.


63 posted on 04/06/2015 4:17:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: x

Fort Campbell (KY/TN) is named for William Bowen Campbell, former TN governor who opposed secession, who was very briefly a Union general during the War.


64 posted on 04/06/2015 4:17:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Sherman Logan

No specifics. If I remember correctly It was part of a deal worked out in congress as part of legislation to return captured Confederate battle flags to their respective states. It may have been no more that a gentleman’s agreement, not formal part of the legislation.


65 posted on 04/06/2015 5:35:39 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: Sherman Logan

No specifics. If I remember correctly It was part of a deal worked out in congress as part of legislation to return captured Confederate battle flags to their respective states. It may have been no more that a gentleman’s agreement, not formal part of the legislation.


66 posted on 04/06/2015 5:42:23 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: tanknetter
in helping pick up the pieces and push the nation towards reconcilliation.

Some reconciliation, the Feds breathing down our backs again.

67 posted on 04/06/2015 5:49:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: x

No reference. The practice was discussed as part of legislation to return captured Confederate Battle flags to the their states. Myers near Arlington cemetery started as a Union fort built as part of the defenses of Washington DC. Ft. Eustis in Virginia was named for an Army officer that died in the 1840s. Ft McClellan was established during the first World War. But generally speaking Army posts in the old Confederacy are named for Officers of the Confederate Army.


68 posted on 04/06/2015 5:49:49 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: miss marmelstein

Copperheads were great people. No apology needed.


69 posted on 04/06/2015 5:50:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CharlesOConnell
"The freedom of Southern Manhood reposes on the institutuion of slavery." - Jefferson Davis

You want to find a source for that, before I call BS ? I did a google search for that quote and got ZERO hits. So quit it.

70 posted on 04/06/2015 5:53:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Regal

Hey you know how many ex Confederates were tried for treason after the war?


71 posted on 04/06/2015 5:56:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ladyjane

Appomattox is the saddest most dreary place I’ve ever been to. I went once, never again.


72 posted on 04/06/2015 5:58:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: x

Another part of that, is that those officers were generally from the states that the army posts were established in.
Gordon was from Georg1a. Bragg from North Carolina. Lee, A.P. Hill, Picket, all from Virginia.


73 posted on 04/06/2015 5:59:37 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: Verginius Rufus
Fort Hood and Fort Bragg are named for Confederate generals. Maybe the feeling was that on balance they did more to help than to hinder the Union victory.

Now that's funny.

74 posted on 04/06/2015 5:59:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cld51860

Lincoln was a bloody butcher tyrant.


75 posted on 04/06/2015 6:00:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C19fan

As an alternative how about a holiday celebrating the end of the Soviet Union? It would drive liberals absolutely nuts.


76 posted on 04/06/2015 6:12:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: C19fan

The Soviet Union officially ended on Christmas Day, the 25th of December 1991. Importantly, the Gregorian, or western Christmas Day, not the Orthodox Christmas Day of the 7th of January.

Thus Christmas Day can also be a secular American holiday, “Ronald Reagan Day, The End of the Soviet Union Day.”


77 posted on 04/06/2015 6:21:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: X Fretensis
But generally speaking Army posts in the old Confederacy are named for Officers of the Confederate Army.

US tanks, circa WWII, alternated between being named after Confederate and Union generals. M3 Lee, M3 Grant, M4 Sherman, M3/M5 Stuart.

Lets also consider two of the names given to the "41 for Freedom" USN Ballistic Missile subs: USS Robert E. Lee (SSBN-601) and USS Stonewall Jackson (SSBN-634)
78 posted on 04/06/2015 6:47:14 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: DoodleDawg

Are you saying that Confederate states were worse than Nazis?

I certainly hope not.


79 posted on 04/06/2015 7:08:27 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: central_va

“Fake - but accurate” LOL


80 posted on 04/06/2015 7:36:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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