Rand Paul calls for repeal of drug laws; reaches out to minority voters

Washington Examiner ^ | 10-7-2015 | Jason Russell

[noinfringers2]

Your comments take me back to the days when that Nobel Prize winner Shockley (electronics) dared to propose that genetic differences among races is real and demonstrable. The kind and fair world of do-gooders excoriated this honest man of science as few men had/have been treated. Of course these do-gooders want every other person to live by their rules even if the world is different.

[grumpygresh]

Opium wars.

The British made a lot of money shipping in opium from Afganistan to China in the 19th century. When the Chinese resisted, the Brits could count on their technological superiority to defeat a China divided by numerous warlords. The opium made the Chinese docile and an ideal host for parasitic colonialists.

Today, the game is similar in the US. The opium comes from the same place, Afganistan. But it’s the US government that protects the opium trade as demonstrated by the fact that Afganistan opium production has skyrocketed since US involvement since 2001. The US is intentionally not taking down the big Latin American drug cartels or the money laundering banks. Like the mob, Feds take their share of the profits, but keep the racket going. Meanwhile, the US has the highest per capita use of opiates. But that’s OK because it keeps the American peasants dumb or in jail.

The US government is basically acting as an imperialistic and foreign power against its own people. Time to take the power away from the f’ing Feds and repeal the Federal drug laws for that reason alone.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Exactly wrong - for most of those ten generations there were no laws against drugs.


I'm not backing down on "anything" I wrote. Period.

Sure, cannabis and opium were all around.

It's just that the people with the "most pivotal" ACCOMPLISHMENTS had the morals (read "horse sense") ...

to NOT be pot heads or opium addicts.

Thomas Jefferson, the Wright Brothers, Thomas Edison, etc, were "not" pot heads.

Did they drink alcohol ? Sure.

But alcohol doesn't "adle the brain" the way that long-term pot smoking does.



People supporting pot "legalization" are delusional.

Drugs like this DESTROY peoples' lives.

Period.

Eventually, when a "critical mass" of a nation's population is rendered incoherent (like voting for dupes like Obama) ...

the nation is FUBAR.

The worst part is that the "Dopers" have a false sense of "entitlement".

The nation is on it's death bed.

Does this sound like America in 2015 ?

Yes.

So don't hand me the "crap" about how legalizing pot is "good" for America, or any other nation that genuinely wishes a successful future.



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[Elyse]

Love it when a noob gets all puffed up and struts around the board

[Ken H]

Do you agree with Ted Cruz that it should be up to the states to decide marijuana legalization, or do you side with fedgov?

[little jeremiah]

Your comments are 100% absolute truth.

[ConservingFreedom]

one is for making drugs legal and the other does not

Cruz says it's the states' decision; whether President Cruz thinks a state made a good or bad choice will be of no practical importance.

[ConservingFreedom]

Where is your facts backing up your assertion?

http://www.casacolumbia.org/download/file/fid/640, question 44:

Which is easiest for someone your age to buy: cigarettes, beer or marijuana?
31% CIGARETTES
14% BEER
34% MARIJUANA
5% THE SAME
15% DON'T KNOW/NO RESPONSE

[ConservingFreedom]

TEN generations of Americans worked their asses off ... saved money ... built a nation ... all pretty much in a "no legal drugs" world.

Exactly wrong - for most of those ten generations there were no laws against drugs.

I'm not backing down on "anything" I wrote. Period.

Sure, cannabis and opium were all around.

I think you just did back down from your claim that ten generations were 'in a "no legal drugs" world.'

It's just that the people with the "most pivotal" ACCOMPLISHMENTS had the morals (read "horse sense") ...
to NOT be pot heads or opium addicts.

There you go: drugs were legal, individuals were free to choose, and many made the better choice. That's what I advocate.

[ConservingFreedom]

Love it when a noob gets all puffed up and struts around the board

He was right, though. Doesn't take long to figure out how the moral-statist phony "conservatives" operate.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Of course states have the right to legalize marijuana.


It's stupid, and will produce a generation of "Mental Invalid Bong Makers" ...

other than that, I sure as heck wouldn't live in a state like that.

It would ultimately be just like living in Jamaica, otherwise known as a third-world shit hole ...


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[ansel12]

Laws don’t get passed until problems arise, when drugs became a problem in the 1800s, drug laws started getting passed.

When polygamy became a problem we started seeing polygamy laws.

[manc]

Then this poll like so many is useless because I have teens and asked them plus asked their friends earlier today after your posts and my wife works with teens.

But hey if you want to believe a poll what suits your theory then go right ahead and I will go with first hand knowledge

[manc]

Hey how are you, ling time no hear?

[ConservingFreedom]

Then this poll like so many is useless because I have teens and asked them plus asked their friends earlier today after your posts and my wife works with teens.

So you think a few nonrandomly selected data points are more reliable than a large randomly sampled study? Bask in your ignorance - the intelligent FReepers to whom I'm really speaking know better.

[ConservingFreedom]

Laws don’t get passed until problems arise

Laws get passed when power-hungry pols and bureaucrats sell the con that a problem has arisen - true conservatism is skeptical of government claims and jealous of individual liberty.

[ansel12]

The drug laws started getting passed when they became a problem, for instance Opium in San Francisco.

Just as polygamy wasn’t a problem, until it became a problem, and the same reason that we are now having to look at laws banning full term abortions.

[ConservingFreedom]

The drug laws started getting passed when they became a problem, for instance Opium in San Francisco.

The only "problem" in San Francisco was that Chinese laborers were indulging in recreational substances different from the ones the Caucasian majority favored.

[ansel12]

You left out polygamy and full term abortion.

[ConservingFreedom]

That those are problems in no way supports your claim that drugs were a problem.