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To: Cincinatus
Solar flux is half that of Earth's, meaning that twice the mass of solar arrays have to be soft-landed on a planet with twice the gravity of the Moon, so evaluate that multiplicative factor of four by the rocket equation. It's ugly.

Or, soft-land something that will make solar cells using silicon from the Martian surface. We don't have such a thing now, but we will.

23 posted on 04/14/2015 5:42:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Or, soft-land something that will make solar cells using silicon from the Martian surface. We don't have such a thing now, but we will.

That sounds like right out of the Red-Green-Blue Mars trilogy. Earth is quite a bit behind the books' timeline date-wise but we're getting there in the computing power. All we need is finding more ice/water and perhaps some rare mineral(s) to provide some financial inducement and who knows?

But I'd bet that the group known in the books as the 'Reds' ( which would be our terrestrial eviro-wackos) would soon be in firm control about not spoiling the pristine beauty of the red planet.

25 posted on 04/14/2015 6:14:09 PM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: PapaBear3625
Or, soft-land something that will make solar cells using silicon from the Martian surface. We don't have such a thing now, but we will.

That's not nearly as easy as your comment implies. You can't just melt the soil into glass -- you have to create glass, dope it with the appropriate elements to make the individual solar cell, then mount it on a substrate and wire all those individual cells together. Then you have to install framing and cable the cell panels into arrays. With low efficiency amorphous cells of the type you'll be making, you might get arrays of a few percent efficiency, so you'll need tens of acres of these panels to be deployed. You will need to have some way to clean the solar arrays, as windblown dust will accumulate on them rapidly and reduce your power output to near zero. Finally, solar cells degrade with time, so you would have to make these arrays continuously.

By the way, you'll need considerable power to do all these things above, so you still have a mass problem.

Oh, and you have to do this all with teleoperated robots, so that you have the power system set up and running when people arrive. And you have to operate those machines with a round-trip time delay that lasts up to 40 minutes. Hope that nothing breaks down beyond repair -- it will take you another 22 months for a launch window before you can ship a replacement up to Mars.

Good luck and Godspeed.

27 posted on 04/15/2015 2:11:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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