Posted on 07/24/2015 6:56:31 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
~ Abraham Lincoln, Speech in the US House of Representatives, 1848
I think we did this one already.
Bookmarked.
“I think we did this one already.”
We did. Let’s don’t do another beat down of our northern friends tonight.
Bump.
Walter Williams would look good on the Supreme Court.
No. It established that tyranny can be enforced at the cost of 600,000 lives for an uncertain amount of time.
The recent nonsense regarding the Confederate Battle Flag simply illustrates the tyrannical nature of the victors in that war.
Why does the author consistently, insistently and repetitively refer to the War of the Rebellion as, the “War of 1861”?
As far as our government is concerned we can withdraw from the union whenever we want. We just have to be able to defend and hold our land. The way it is now. The way it has always been.
It's refreshingly neutral.
“Why does the author consistently, insistently and repetitively refer to the War of the Rebellion as, the “War of 1861”?”
You need to reread the article. In 1861, everyone knew that states had a right to secede. The right to secede was not rebellion; it was classified rebellion to justify the carnage.
so question....why did these state secede? Lincoln had not taken office so what act had he done to the states as he had no power....let Lincoln say what offense he though he has commited
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html Abraham Lincoln First Inaugural Address, Monday, March 4, 1861
Walter Williams makes a valid and cogent case for secession.
Walter Williams what a great piece. This man gets it.
And by the way, what was the point of the author in resurrecting HL Menken just to have him mIquote Lincoln and then castigate Lincoln for making a statement he never made?
There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits states from seceding; thus, they have the right to do so.
Would you prefer the author use the more accurate and correct term The War of Northern Aggression?
I think the southern states had been itching to succeed for a while. Lincoln’s election gave them the excuse to do it sooner rather than later.
No.
We Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech: “It is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense.” Lincoln said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination — that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth.” Mencken says: “It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves.”
Your assertion is this statement is factually incorrect?
Sure makes sense to me.
As to your first assertion. I only recall one example of consideration for succession. Also you say “1864 states were already....” they were 1 year away from losing a horrible unconstitutional suppression defense. See the paragraph below:
After initial problems, Davis’s government grew stronger as he learned to use executive power to consolidate control of the armed forces and manpower distribution. But some Southern governors resisted Davis’s centralization and tried to keep their men and resources at home. Although Davis used authority effectively, the insistence on preserving states’ rights plagued him constantly. Vice President Alexander H. Stephens, an early dissident, for example, sulked in his native Georgia and finally urged its secession from the Confederacy.
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