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Has Apple Found The Holy Grail Of Electric Vehicles?
Seeking Alpha ^ | Aug. 25, 2015 11:17 AM ET

Posted on 08/25/2015 2:10:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Jeff Chandler

LOL those suckers need a lot of amps, so one hog at the trough at a time.


21 posted on 08/25/2015 2:29:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Swordmaker

Apple is wasting their money.
When the car breaks down do you have to tow it to the Apple Genius’s Garage?


22 posted on 08/25/2015 2:30:29 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Little Pig
Also, you'll only be allowed to travel on the Apple-approved network of roads.

You stirred a memory.

I remember reading a science fiction story with a similar story line. It was delivery trucks and they ran on rails. But the rails were different sizes going to different locations, so one had to have an adapter to change wheelbase width or one could only use certain roads (tracks).

Also one had to deal with the truck bed vs. the loading dock. Some were male, some female, so if you had a male bed and the location had a male dock, you had to have an adapter.

The story was a a satire of the PC - IBM situation. Remember having to get adapters for your keyboard, mouse, printer cables every time IBM put out a new PC ?

23 posted on 08/25/2015 2:36:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
On a related subject, of all the electric car charging stations I have seen in Arizona and California, I have never seen one actually being used.

Traveling through Oregon last week there was a Tesla charging station with about six units. And there was a Tesla plugged into one as the owner had gone into the Starbucks next door. Nice looking car.

24 posted on 08/25/2015 2:43:12 PM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: Swordmaker

I wonder if the media will ever report the fact that 95% of hydrogen is made from fossil fuels


25 posted on 08/25/2015 2:49:52 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Jeff Chandler
On a related subject, of all the electric car charging stations I have seen in Arizona and California, I have never seen one actually being used. The one at the local library even had cobwebs.

There is a reason for that. Quick charging batteries is expensive unless you have a Tesla. The dirty little secret with electric vehicles is they are designed for slower charging. Constant quick charging of batteries is bad for battery life. I suspect this is one of the reasons Tesla told some of their car owners to quit hogging the free chargers..

26 posted on 08/25/2015 2:58:30 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: NorthMountain

No sh!t?


27 posted on 08/25/2015 3:05:57 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Swordmaker
The fuel cell could be refilled through an gas inlet port converted from the headphone jack.

So loud music really COULD make your eardrums explode...

28 posted on 08/25/2015 3:08:54 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Swordmaker

29 posted on 08/25/2015 3:10:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: lacrew

It grows on trees, crazy fast...


30 posted on 08/25/2015 3:19:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: cicero2k
Most likely, from natural gas, in order to be cost effective.

So where did the carbon go? If they tell me it is vented as CO2 then my SVT Cobra is a hybrid. It burns gas and rubber. And vents CO2 and water out the tailpipe.

31 posted on 08/25/2015 3:39:23 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (Just scream and leap. Then Donate to Freerepublic.com)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
So where did the carbon go? If they tell me it is vented as CO2 then my SVT Cobra is a hybrid. It burns gas and rubber. And vents CO2 and water out the tailpipe.

Now we're talking.

Your muscle car is probably 25% efficient, that is 25% of the energy in gasoline reaches the wheels.

They can make a case that electricity can be generated at 50% efficiency, lose 15% in transmission and charging, but still ahead of the game.

But it's not a big difference.

And global warming may be better than cooling at this point in the long term climate cycle. We have no way of knowing.

Your Cobra might be doing us a favor.

32 posted on 08/25/2015 3:55:33 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Swordmaker

An iCar?


33 posted on 08/25/2015 4:53:48 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Jeff Chandler

The ones at my work in San Jose are used constantly. People mainly spend the big bucks to go electric so they can use the carpool lanes and beat the horrendous traffic jams. You are allotted a certain amount of time at the charger, then you get a text message “Your time is up!” People leave meetings to go move their cars. People get invoiced for the power they buy, but at ridiculously low rates.


34 posted on 08/25/2015 7:30:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Oh, the huge GIF.


35 posted on 08/25/2015 7:31:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Swordmaker

apple is going to hydrogen route? I don’t think Steve Jobs would make a stupid mistake like this


36 posted on 08/25/2015 8:06:27 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: lacrew
Where does the hydrogen come from?

I have a fuel-cell powered toy car, bought it at a huge discount (about $12 instead of $150). It uses a catalyst to convert hydrogen and oxygen into electricity to power an electric motor to propel the car, and creates water as a by-product. A solar panel will generate the electricity necessary to convert the water into hydrogen and oxygen and stores it ready for the car to use again. Alternatively, a battery will provide the electricity to "create" the hydrogen. An external electricity source can also be used.

The toy car is just that, a toy that demonstrates fuel-cells. However, I found the process very wasteful. Much power was wasted creating a small amount of hydrogen. The electricity used to create the hydrogen, would have been better used to directly power the electric motor instead of being wasted creating the hydrogen.

Obviously, with this toy car the hydrogen is not being burned in a combustion process as with a normal car. Just wanted to point out that hydrogen can be split from water via electricity and a catalyst.

37 posted on 08/25/2015 8:28:03 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: edh

I can’t think of a good reason for a commercial produced Apple car... but I sure can see some technological value in the exercise. It’s much like the stuff we benefit from today, developed for/by NASA and for the racing industry -


38 posted on 08/25/2015 9:02:16 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: EVO X
Constant quick charging of batteries is bad for battery life. Agreed. One of the dirty secrets of the present technology.

The report also indicated that the hydrogen was stored at low pressure in some form of powdered medium. The fuel cell could be refilled through an gas inlet port converted from the headphone jack.

I am wondering if these are the nickel based storage fuel-air cells they were developing a few years ago. Things got very quiet. It seemed to be a very promising approach.
39 posted on 08/25/2015 9:54:52 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Swordmaker

Makes me wonder if the fuel cell mentioned involves an alcohol or gas fuel.


40 posted on 08/29/2015 3:39:17 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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