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Blacks, Latinos Face New Problem: ‘Math Misplacement’: Pushed to the back of the math class bus
PJ Media ^ | 10/02/2015 | Rod Kackley

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:10:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: 2banana

It’s a worldwide issue


21 posted on 10/02/2015 7:42:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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To: SeekAndFind

The teachers in mostly minority schools are horrible and math is one of their major weaknesses. So it’s not surprising.

The other thing is that having good language skills is essential to understanding math concepts. Hispanics come out of a foreign language background and have not received good English instruction for the most part. Blacks come out of a culture that speaks a completely non-standard English that can’t even accommodate mathematical concepts. So they need to learn English too.


22 posted on 10/02/2015 7:44:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: bkopto

AVERAGE IQ BY COUNTRY 2012


23 posted on 10/02/2015 7:44:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: wardaddy; 2banana

RE: It’s a worldwide issue

SEE POST #23


24 posted on 10/02/2015 7:45:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I know orientals are holding us all down now

Quite a change since the Sandpiper


25 posted on 10/02/2015 7:51:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wrong, according to Mitchell. She pointed to a 2010 Noyce Foundation Pathways [1]study that Mitchell said found that African-American and Latino students, in particular, were improperly held back in nine Bay Area school districts despite having demonstrated proficiency on state standardized math tests.

Wrong, Mitchell.

The study did not find that at all. It found that "placement decisions are correlated to ethnicity and parent education, but not gender", but as to the crucial question of whether successful Latino and African-American students test-takers were held back despite their good test scores, the study had this to say:

"However, even among the “successful” eighth grade Algebra students, placement in ninth grade varied – with Asian students showing the highest percentages in Geometry or Advanced Geometry (77%) and Filipino students with the lowest (40%), while Latino and white students were approximately equally successful at about 66% enrolled in Geometry. Other ethnic groups samples were too small for inclusion. "

26 posted on 10/02/2015 7:59:10 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“Are we EVER going to run out of excuses for the enduring social pathogies of minorities?”

Nope. Math requires self-discipline, which too many of them lack.


27 posted on 10/02/2015 8:11:24 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: grania
Not everyone needs Calculus, even those going into STEM programs.

I take it you've not examined very many college major courses of study recently. Colleges of business, science, agriculture, and engineering at my alma mater have a calculus requirement in most majors by the sophomore year. Introductory Physics courses are delineated as requiring or not requiring Calculus. Engineering majors of most every stripe will not be admitted into the professional courses (junior-level and above) without calculus as it forms the basis of classes like thermodynamics.

28 posted on 10/02/2015 8:11:55 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SeekAndFind
After nearly a quarter-century of teaching high school, there are certain things I know from personal experience. The first kids in a class to start to act out are virtually always black kids. Most of the kids cutting class and wandering the halls instead of learning stuff are black kids. The students least likely to turn in homework are black kids. This is not bigotry on my part, this is what I have seen, over and over and over again.

From what I have personally observed, it is no surprise to me that black kids are apparently lagging behind in math achievement or any other sort of academic achievement. And it is no surprise to me that some libtard is attempting to make excuses for their behavior and deflect the finger of blame on people who are not responsible for their failure. The subways keep on rolling for everybody; they just didn't get on the train.

29 posted on 10/02/2015 8:17:05 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: SeekAndFind

There was a post where someone pointed out all of the inbreeding in muslim countries and how that diminished intelligence.


30 posted on 10/02/2015 8:22:36 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who ruined Israel’s curve?


31 posted on 10/02/2015 8:23:40 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: DungeonMaster

RE: Who ruined Israel’s curve?

Israel is a country that accepts Jews from all over the world.

Remember Operation Solomon?

That was a covert Israeli military operation to airlift Ethiopian Jews to Israel in 1991. Non-stop flights of 35 Israeli aircraft, including Israeli Air Force C-130s and El Al Boeing 747s, transported 14,325 Ethiopian Jews to Israel in 36 hours.

Just for your consideration.


32 posted on 10/02/2015 8:27:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: T-Bird45
I'm saying most students do not need to take Calculus in HS. They can take two years of Calculus in College and meet those requirements. The exception would be schools such as MIT and other highly competitive engineering schools that want students to have AP math and science backgrounds in HS.

What I discovered in my travels is that not all students who take Algebra 1 in grade 8 go beyond Geometry and Algebra 2 in high school math. Ironically, by not taking a math course Senior year of high school they suffer a disadvantage when they have to get back to it in college. Some find their way around that college math requirement by taking a watered down "Advanced Algebra" course or whatever.

Meanwhile, many others who take their Calculus in college find themselves with a course outline that is in sync with what the college expects.

33 posted on 10/02/2015 8:30:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: Vinnie

Unce tice fee times a madey.


34 posted on 10/02/2015 8:30:19 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: SeekAndFind
Remember Operation Solomon?

That was a covert Israeli military operation to airlift Ethiopian Jews to Israel in 1991. Non-stop flights of 35 Israeli aircraft, including Israeli Air Force C-130s and El Al Boeing 747s, transported 14,325 Ethiopian Jews to Israel in 36 hours.

Interesting, thanks.

35 posted on 10/02/2015 8:36:09 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: grania

OK, sorry for not following on the fact you were talking about HS. I agree about those not getting any math as seniors are handicapped when they have to jump back into it in college. The college-prep sequence my 2 kids experienced was Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, and Calculus/Trig. Some advanced students got to start Algebra I in the 8th grade.


36 posted on 10/02/2015 8:40:36 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: mrmeyer

Teachers dont hold back students, thats up to counseling and admin.


37 posted on 10/02/2015 8:46:53 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: SeekAndFind

Math report card grades aren’t subjective like English grades. Either the answer is right or it’s wrong and you fail. If you don’t turn in your homework, it’s a 0. No matter how well one does on a state test, it doesn’t make up for not turning in homework. Schools have assignment grades online these days. There is no excuse for a parent not to know that all of little Latishia’s zeros for no homework are going to fail her.


38 posted on 10/02/2015 9:22:45 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind
I only scanned the article, and I may have missed something, but here's my take:

1. If you are getting “B's” in the regular math class in 8th Grade, you don't belong in an advanced class.

2. Most schools have the test tools and curriculum to determine who goes to the advanced math classes much earlier than 8th grade, usually around 4th grade. If you didn't get selected for the advanced math program by 6th grade, the bus has passed you by.

3. If you are getting B's in the regular math class in 8th grade, the only job you're getting in Silicon Valley is 3rd shift assistant men's room attendant.

39 posted on 10/02/2015 10:15:27 AM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
"Are we EVER going to run out of excuses for the enduring social pathogies of minorities"

No, because nobody in power is able to face the truth: IQ matters. Even major conservatives will not speak the truth for fear of being called racists.

40 posted on 10/02/2015 11:17:51 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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