Glenn Beck vs. the Tea Party: Calls Tea Party Members Who Support Trump Racists

America Thinker ^ | 12/22/2015 | Lloyd Marcus

[statered]

I keep seeing this but I think it misses the mark. There is no mainstream GOP person that is conservative to support. Cruz is the most so but there are still some doubts about him as it relates to immigration and finance (with the GS connections).

Trump represents the best chance to destroy the establishment. The idea that we should support someone who is supposedly more conservative but cannot turn things on its head is a losing proposition.

[ohioman]

Beck is a Judas to the right and should be treated as such. If FR’s criticisms of dear old Beck offend thee, feel free to leave.

[entropy12]

Then there are a lot of racists in the country /S

[Ohioan]

I know it is not a good thing to speculate on other people's motivation; but this, following Beck's ridiculous adoration of Martin Luther King, a couple of years ago, strongly suggests that he is trying to prove something that cannot be proven.

I tried to gently rebuke him--leaving his name out of the article--at the time of that strange adoration from a usually Conservative voice (Honor & Martin Luther King, but he has continued off on the same tangent.

My suspicion is that he has some sort of guilt complex, but that is only a suspicion. Of course the demonstrable fact is that the Leftist race card players have done almost incalculable damage to the prospects of Negro Americans and other native minority races. But that seems to have escaped Beck's comprehension; which is the major reason for my suspicion that he is driven by something other than reason, when he plays the race card.

[Little Bill]

Years ago a bunch of us told Howard Zinn that we would finance his relocation to the USSR or China, His choice, he declined.

I think in Huntsmans case I think he would follow Zinns lead.

[DH]

I knew this day would come some day...and here it is.

Glenn Beck’s mind has finally rotted away. He started acting squirrely a few years ago and now he has lost his nuts!

[right way right]

For Cruz here but, I have to say that Beck is mentally ill and it’s sad.

[CottonBall]

Deporting illegals and vetting Muslims is mire conservative than any other candidate.

[CSM]

I don’t need the links, I watched the show. It was a few weeks ago and it was a comparison to the Obama worshipers form 2008. It’s called using the absurdity to make a point.

If the author of the article had any fortitude or integrity he would have posted it in real time instead of waiting for Beck to go on vacation for 2 weeks.

With regards to the Palin dust-up, yes Beck had a completely inappropriate reaction to something she said and called her a “clown show” or some such phrase. He realized he was wrong and apologized on air the next day and admitted that his reaction was inappropriate and that he was out of line with his emotional response. Naturally, this follow up was never covered by his detractors that depend on lies and half truths in their attacks.

Yes, Glenn has taken the position that if Trump wins the primary, then Glenn will vote 3rd party. He will do the same for Jeb, Huckabee, Kasich and Graham (not relevant anymore.) The fact of the matter is that Trump is no conservative, has no conservative core and the rabid trump followers seem to be as unhinged as the Obama crowd in 2008. Just read some of the threads on FR, some of the comments are astounding.

I have no issue with anyone that factually disagrees with Beck, or Levin, or Limbaugh, etc. But I do have issues when they only do so with lies, half-truths or media matters.

[CottonBall]

A very logical succinct post.

[CottonBall]

more. dumb tablet

[Little Bill]

Glenn was a drunk and probably a nasty one. He is seeking atonement by finding a cause and seeking redemption through that cause.

From what I understand about the LDS is that you must help your self, we will help but in the end it is up to you.

[AuntB]

Follow the $$$

Beck sold out to Amer. for Prosperity and Freedom works and endorses only Tea Party Express...ALL run by lobbyists, all open border, amnesty hacks. Beck was down on the border handing out goodies to invading Central Americans last summer, and Ted Cruz was with him! http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2014/07/19/ted-cruz-joins-glenn-beck-for-soccer-balls-and-teddy-bears-event/

Dick Armey said FreedomWorks paid Beck $1 million to say nice things about the group to raise more cash” http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013/01/dick-armey-sticks-his-freedomworks-payback-glenn-beck/60624/

[CottonBall]

“The fact of the matter is that Trump is no conservative, has no conservative core and the rabid trump followers seem to be as unhinged as the Obama crowd in 2008. Just read some of the threads on FR, some of the comments are astounding.”

You sound rabid yourself. I find the Trump comments here to be quite intelligent and patriotic, from people that don’t trust Cruz’s lack of directness on immigration and appreciate Trump’s VERY conservative positions on immigration and national security.

Let in hordes of illegals and Muslims and our country will be destroyed quickly. None of the other issues will matter. But Trump’s 2a and tax policies are also top-notch.

If you want to see unhinged posters, look for the Cruz posters here - you’d think you wandered into DU with all the insults and lack of substantial ideas and facts. They aren’t capable of backing up their candidate so instead personally attack his supporters. (much like your post did). Pretty classless.

[CSM]

“Beck is a Judas to the right and should be treated as such. If FR’s criticisms of dear old Beck offend thee, feel free to leave.”

I have no issue with criticisms based on factual information. I’ve been away from FR for a couple/three months and after reading this thread, a couple of Trump threads, a couple more Cruz threads and a Levin thread I am amazed at the degredation of the quality of posters on this site. There is a very sizable group of unhinged kooks that are stinking up the place.

So, when I point out lies and express disappointment in that being acceptable to, and even endorsed by FReepers, you suggest that I leave. Maybe it is time for you to do a bit of self introspection.

[CSM]

“ppreciate Trump’s VERY conservative positions on immigration and national security.”

Is that the same Trump that was out trashing Romney for his “strong stance on immigration” and the same Trump that trashed GWB along with the rest of the left?

The fact of the matter is that Trump is simply a populist. What happens when the populist message flips back to the left?

I didn’t say that EVERY poster was unhinged, in fact I didn’t even limit that classification to Trump supporters. There is ample evidence right on this thread.

[CottonBall]

W and Romney were not conservatives, so Trump not being for them doesn’t worry me.

What does worry me is Cruz being vague on the illegals here. He has pro-amnesty donors, was silent for months about illegals, his recent plan is vague, he cannot utter the word ‘deport’, without real deportations the motivation for self-deportation is significantly reduced (Romney’s plan as well). And using lawyer-speak phrases like ‘I intend...’ is worrisome for someone so gifted with words and for being exact about what he is debating. I think he is an upright and honest person, so is trying hard not to lie. I do give him kudos for that.

[greyfoxx39]

His cult worship is driving him nuts.

....defeating Trump!

[Yosemitest]

Always go to the ORIGINAL SOURCES !

Does Glenn Beck really think that Tea Party members are racists?
By Stu, Thursday, Dec 15, 2011
And now, I defend the Pope against charges of atheism.

So, Glenn Beck, the guy who has spent more than two years DEFENDING the Tea Party, now thinks the Tea Party is filled with racists?
That's what we're supposed to believe today?
Seriously?

Ugh . . . ok.
It all starts with Glenn on Fox Business when Glenn asked the question - -
how can the Tea Party support a progressive like Newt Gingrich?
What is it?
Race?
You can watch the interview here.

Glenn Beck says Tea Party is Racist for Backing Newt Gingrich
Uploaded on Dec 11, 2011 At this date I didn't even know Gingrich WAS the Tea Party candidate,
I thought that was Michele Bachmann.
Beck always leaves out that he is not a conservative as he trashes others for not being conservative. . .

Now, I suppose if Glenn was some MSNBC host, and that's all the information you had,
it's possible you could think that Glenn believes the Tea Party is filled with evil racists.
But, that's not the case, because we are real people who live on earth.
One of the benefits of living on earth, is that
we can look at other events that have happened on earth, and judge that event IN CONTEXT .

Does Glenn make points in ways that often piss people off?
Yup.
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program:
the show that once made a point by claiming, for a full hour, that he had once kissed his sister.

Some people were shocked by what Glenn said.
I wasn't particularly stunned, given that he had made the exact same point on the radio two days earlier.
The only difference between the two is that,
on his own show, where he controls the flow of conversation,
Glenn was able to FULLY MAKE THE POINT .

Here is the transcript:

GLENN: This is going back to Roosevelt.
Listen to this because this is the same thing.
America, the disease is PROGRESSIVISM .
It is not Republicans, it is not Democrats,
and damn you, Tea Party people,
you make your choice.
Was it about Barack Obama?
Is it because he's black?
Or is it his damn policies?

STU: Certainly not because he's black, as you know.

GLENN: I know that.
But then if you are supporting Newt Gingrich, where are you going?
Who are you?

Does that sound like someone who thinks the Tea Party is actually racist?
Or does it someone saying he really doesn't think Newt is the Tea Party candidate?
Remember, this is BEFORE the Fox Business interview.
Are we really supposed to believe that Glenn, AFTER 3 YEARS of unparalleled SUPPORT of the Tea Party, now thinks they're racists?
Are we really supposed to believe that in a period of 48 hours, Glenn went from specifically saying "I know" that this isn't about the race,
to believing the exact opposite ?

I get it.
Glenn didn't explain himself with the appropriate 32 minutes of disclaimers . . . once.
But . . . really?
He has been one of the nation's MOST CONSISTENT SUPPORTERS OF THE TEA PARTY, ESPECIALLY ON THE ISSUE OF RACE.
To give just one example of the thousands that exist:

GLENN: But that's not why people are rising up.
It's such a ridiculous thing.
We're not rising up - - the tea party - - because of Barak Obama or because of - -
How unbelievably infantile do you have to be to believe it's because he's black ?
That's such a third grade argument IT'S RIDICULOUS .

Look, you can disagree with Glenn's point,
that Newt and Obama are both TOO PROGRESSIVE .
You can disagree with how he made that point.
I've been more critical of Newt than most,
but if it comes down to him and Obama,
I can't think of a scenario in which
I don't hold my nose and vote for Newt.
But, only an idiot would believe that Glenn Beck actually thinks the Tea Party is filled with racists.
If that's what he was really saying, he was calling ME, his best friend Pat, and probably the majority of his staff racists.
I think he’d likely be calling HIMSELFf a racist when it comes down to it.

Anyway, a borderline(?) psychotic blogger who hates Catholicism just told me
the Pope is an atheist!
Do YOU believe that ? ! ! ! ! ? ! ?

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

Glenn Beck-Lonesome Rhodes. What’s in a name?