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We Must Face the Facts About Islam's History
Conservative Papers ^ | 12/24/2015 | Alpenski

Posted on 12/25/2015 10:52:44 AM PST by conservativejoy

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1 posted on 12/25/2015 10:52:44 AM PST by conservativejoy
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Excellent (Non-PC) history of the Crusades:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilFbbk9jw4


2 posted on 12/25/2015 10:59:02 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: conservativejoy

A read of the Satanic Koran will turn up 111 individual commandments to kill the unbeliever, strike them at the neck (behead) or enslave them. Not only does it command murder and the enslavement, Islam’s creator and fantasy generator, Mohamhead, is OK in his book with pedophilia.

There is violence in the Old Testament too. But, there is a new covenant with God in the New Testament of redemption that does not condone murder. Rather, it commands its followers to love one another. Love, a word totally absent in the devil’s workbook, the Koran.


3 posted on 12/25/2015 11:01:09 AM PST by Sasparilla
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To: conservativejoy
First, and foremost, we need to confront what Islam says about itself. That is the Koran.
It tells its followers to kill/crucify the 'enemies of Allah'. So it gives the world its options: Convert, Become Slaves, or Die.

History is just validation of their books.

I never read Mein Kampf, but as I understand, people who read it should not have been surprised at what transpired in Nazi Germany.

4 posted on 12/25/2015 11:04:01 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks for sharing. Hadn’t seen that.


5 posted on 12/25/2015 11:08:31 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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Another, as he says,lazy answer” “and abandon all those Muslims who are trying desperately to modernise, reform and de-literalise their faith”.
To change Islam for the good would be to turn it into something else that isn’t Islam.


6 posted on 12/25/2015 11:16:12 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Sasparilla

Nobody KNOWS the history of Islam, or if they do, and still claim divine inspiration was behind the writing of the Koran, they are the world’s most pop-eyed, apoplectic and apocalyptic apologists. (Bearded men with burning eyes)

There is no way to reconcile the words of the Koran with any of the earlier Scriptures or sacred writings of ANY legitimate religion. Sure, terrible things have been done in the name of other major religions, but those religions went through the necessary reinterpretations and reorganizations to become genuine representations of divine thought and mercy, and as a basis for true justice among men.

Shari’ah Law allows for none of that.


7 posted on 12/25/2015 11:17:19 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: conservativejoy

Islam remains rooted in 7th century tribalism and never had a Reformation or an Enlightenment, cultural changes that shaped modern Christianity. The teachings of Jesus are not based on violence, revenge or temporal punishment for disbelief. Certainly Christianity had its Inquisition and persecutions, but these excesses have not continued to be incorporated into its teaching. There may be peaceful Muslims, but that radical jihadism continues unabated in mosques around the world is evidence that many rank and file Muslims to one degree or another support jihad if not actively, but through doing nothing to oppose it. Until I see these radicals driven from the mosques, everyday Muslims denouncing this extremism and Islamic leaders actively rooting out these jihadists, I see little hope for Islam surviving what will soon become a global war resulting in the utter destruction of Islam.


8 posted on 12/25/2015 11:21:28 AM PST by The Great RJ (�Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.� Margaret Thatcher)
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To: TigerClaws

Bflv


9 posted on 12/25/2015 11:28:05 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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We, as Americans, must admit that we had our first ‘jihadi’ attack, with the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by an Arab named Sirhan Bishara Sirhan, in the 1960’s!!!!


10 posted on 12/25/2015 11:35:19 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: conservativejoy

No literate unbeliever can read the koran and then invite a muslim into his/her home. I don’t want people in my country who I won’t have in my home.


11 posted on 12/25/2015 11:40:37 AM PST by umgud
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All true.

And in the West, relativism rules the day.

A lazy and superficial understanding or misunderstanding of those differences by a seemingly increasing number of fools and tools are driving the false narrative with the force of a “Politically Correct” Government and media.

It goes way beyond the “Emperor having no clothes”.

It’s more than willful ignorance.

It’s becoming “Forced ignorance”.


12 posted on 12/25/2015 11:45:15 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: conservativejoy

Most muslims had an ancestor who was forced into islam at the point of a sword.


13 posted on 12/25/2015 11:48:11 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: conservativejoy

Great piece, thanks for posting.


14 posted on 12/25/2015 12:07:19 PM PST by IChing
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>>Islam is not a peaceful religion. It is certainly a religion of war and is by no means a religion of peace.

Even this misses the real truth: that Islam is not simply a religion, but also a totalitarian political/legal system.


15 posted on 12/25/2015 12:12:35 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It is interesting the way socialists approach theological concepts but when it comes to Islam they are not the only ones who refuse to approach the issue. That even includes leading Christian clergy including Pope Francis.

Followers of Mohammed not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to kill those who refuse to submit to their version of Gods will.

That is a basic tenet of that religion. A claim which goes unchallanged. While it is understandable for atheists which most socialists are, not to approach that claim on a theological basis but by bombing and killing those who believe in it will not end its practice.

Islam as construed with its portrayal of a mercyless evil deity approving using deception and deceit is an abomination which must be discredited and condemed. And that can only be done by attacking its assertions and tenets. Certainly not by deying they do not exist. .

It is bewildering why many Christian clergy concerned about quote, political correctness, unquote, refuse to address what an insult to God it is and worse yet are unable to condem, then convince and convert its advocates and adhearants they are followers of an evil creed .

The Koran which was not given to Mohammed by God but by some angel .Demanding enforcement of sharia law which draws heavily from the Torah.It is a pseudo religious concoction using monotheistic selected texts, taken and misconstrued from the old (bible) and new testaments.

Both of which cite the Almighty has granted free will to accept or obey his laws and God is the final judge not man: Sodom and Gormora ,and Let he who is without sin cast the stone, are outstanding examples from both books. One deals with sin and Gods decision toward a group the other to an individual, neither is left to man.

Yet followers of Mohammed under the severest of penalties are forbidden to read either which would refute that assertion in a creed which institutionalizes disgusting arab pagan tribal mores,observances,and customs.

Claiming adhearants are authorized by our Creator to demand submission to it or suffer an ignominious death administered by followers of Islam simply because they answer the call to prayer 5 times a day.

http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


16 posted on 12/25/2015 12:23:04 PM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: conservativejoy

Most muslims had an ancestor who was forced into islam at the point of a sword.


17 posted on 12/25/2015 12:52:18 PM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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The future must not belong to those who deny the true nature of Islam

John Quincy Adams on Islam

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).


18 posted on 12/25/2015 1:05:39 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Terry L Smith

Thomas Jefferson sent the Marines to deal with jihadis in the early 1800’s


19 posted on 12/25/2015 1:09:18 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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I know this, you know this.

But, how is it even possible that not only so many don’t know, but are militantly opposed to anyone knowing, in and of itself?


20 posted on 12/25/2015 1:40:04 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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