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To: Bender2
I finally started watching that this summer, watched them all over a month or so. Now I'm reading the books and am half done with the last one, imagine that, books! Not actual physical copies of the books, but still, books.

I agree, Melisandre is how it happens. I don't like that God of hers, it ate that poor cute little girl, but he can bring people back to life. Roose Bolton is a better father than Stannis (in the show at least, in the books his daughter has not been harmed).

There is zero chance that Jon Snow is permanently dead. The actor was seen in Belfast where they film and he's too important to the story.

If he dies for keeps it will be at or near the end.

Spoiler alert: In White scroll over to see I didn't think of R+L=J myself but once I read about it I was like "duh". I would be shocked if it wasn't true. I think either Jon or Dany will die and the other will sit the Iron Throne. Cute as she is Dany is a horrible ruler so I hope it's Jon on the throne.

7 posted on 12/26/2015 6:43:38 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy
There is zero chance that Jon Snow is permanently dead.

Jon Snow is dead. Azor Ahai is alive again!

That's my guess, at least.

12 posted on 12/26/2015 7:16:06 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Impy

Melisandre doesn’t have any friends at the Wall or Wildlings (she kinda burned a favorite), and admitted most of her power is from the equivalent of magic tricks designed to recruit for her religion.

She had to get to the Wall for a reason. She convinced Stannis to burn his only child (TV version, but the end result will be the same), which resulted in the majority of his forces abandoning him out of disgust and the dire situation he put them in.

Melisandre doesn’t have a practical use for John Snow. In fact, she made his death more probable, taking out two birds with one stone.

GRRM is very predictable. Look for clues in actual history. ;)


13 posted on 12/26/2015 7:33:30 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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