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1 posted on 01/20/2016 10:02:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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This one could get interesting. Just saying.


2 posted on 01/20/2016 10:02:57 AM PST by rdl6989
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Up Al Gore’s...


3 posted on 01/20/2016 10:04:05 AM PST by beaversmom
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You mean under the armpit or up.............


5 posted on 01/20/2016 10:05:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Turn it over, and put the thermometer in there.

BTW, it's colder in Antarctica, just sayin'

8 posted on 01/20/2016 10:09:07 AM PST by Cboldt
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Satellites are by far the most accurate means of taking the earth’s temperature. Ground based stations have well documented issues with quality control. Many are have been placed on or near airport tarmacs; next to air conditioning heat exchangers, etc. etc... And then there is the way that the data is homogenized where huge swaths of wilderness in the far North are represented by one thermometer in the middle of a city thousands of miles away. It is crazy! Strangely enough and not mentioned in this article ground monitoring stations located in rural areas have been showing a cooling trend over the past ten years.


10 posted on 01/20/2016 10:11:08 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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"The Earth has a Fever."

11 posted on 01/20/2016 10:12:01 AM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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Even more surprising:

Placed in the shade of spreading oak it’s cooler than in direct sunshine 10 feet from oak shadow.

Magic...


12 posted on 01/20/2016 10:13:27 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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You know who’s fault it is for global warming? Asphalt. ;-)

Thermometers that use to be in towns with dirt or gravel roads are now in cities who’s roads and parking lots are covered with black asphalt. They have become heat islands. The rest of the earth is the same temperature it has always been.


13 posted on 01/20/2016 10:14:02 AM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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Conservatives prefer to put the thermometer in their mouth.


14 posted on 01/20/2016 10:14:53 AM PST by fruser1
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Isn’t that true for just about anything? A human. A turkey. A car. A planet?


16 posted on 01/20/2016 10:16:15 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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AND you can learn the entire history of earth’s climate by the tree rings of six trees in Russia.


17 posted on 01/20/2016 10:18:15 AM PST by Organic Panic
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So easy, so easy....

The writer claims that very sparcely situated ground sampling, consisting of a jokingly small amount of sensors, many placed where they should not be, is superior to looking down and taking an integrated set of data.

And so goes what passes for journalism.

No wonder the writer is a writer, looking for info from D students who would be flinging hash were govt grants not keeping a roof over their heads.

The article is bull-Obama.


18 posted on 01/20/2016 10:20:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Ground-based thermometers measure of the rate of urban sprawl. They have been shown to be a poor indicator of temperature change over a long period of time.


19 posted on 01/20/2016 10:20:25 AM PST by kidd
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Well when they expect us to believe they can predict a 0.6 degree temperature change over the next hundred years, that is an accuracy unable to attain merely using the scientific concept of “significant figures”.

Basically it means you cannot measure to an accuracy greater than your measuring device. If all you have is a yardstick, you can’t measure something to thousandths of an inch.

And they are going to use TREE RINGS??? to tell us temperature that accurately over hundreds of years..?

It is beyond stupid.

PLUS WE KNOW THEY MANIPULATED THE DATA- THEY SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THAT


20 posted on 01/20/2016 10:21:54 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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Temperature readings taken close to Earth's surface -- about 6 feet off the ground -- show a slightly warmer planet

Especially when it's also 6 feet from a paved highway, or 5 feet from a vent discharge.

Talk to the geniuses who sited the sensors...

21 posted on 01/20/2016 10:22:50 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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AGW theory predicts the troposphere warming more than the surface. If the opposite is happening then conventional AGW is falsified by the scientific method. Of course nothing can falsify AGW so there is that.


23 posted on 01/20/2016 10:26:32 AM PST by jwalsh07
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It's a matter of better accuracy and relevance, scientists say.

Scientists lie, for reasons that have everything that has to do with the grant money that is sent their way by governments who want reports that support their political agenda.

Ground measurements have been problematic for hundreds of years for reasons that are well laid out in a paper, Watts et. al. 2012 that can be found on the Watts Up With That? website. Scientists routinely adjust the ground measurement and in the past fifty years they have been invariably adjusted upward. Ever wondered why we don't know what the temperature of the North Pole is from day to day. We have no ground measuring statement because the North Pole is covered with moving ice. We have very few ground measurements from the North Pole region north of 90 degrees N latitude. Etc, etc. Don't believe what scientists and the AP tell you. The satellite measurements are much more accurate, but they have a much shorter record compared with the ground record. That record doesn't support the political narrative either which is why it is discredited by nonsense pieces like this one. Most people figured this out long ago, but the politicians cling to it because money is involved, lots of money.

25 posted on 01/20/2016 10:30:57 AM PST by centurion316
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At least they are toning down the rhetoric. They are calling the climate change non-believers doubters instead of deniers.


26 posted on 01/20/2016 10:33:36 AM PST by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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"We care about what's happening where we live. That's why ground-based temperatures are most relevant to humans," said Texas Tech climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe.

That is a pretty stupid thing for a SCIENTIST to say. "I only care about the less than 10% of the Earth's surface inhabited by humans."

Meanwhile their ground sensors are primarily located in urban heat islands where the temperatures are artificially elevated by pavement and buildings and natural air currents are disturbed by buildings.

Any scientist should be grateful to get as many data points as possible from as wide a variety sources as possible.

27 posted on 01/20/2016 10:45:25 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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When it comes to so-called global warming, the temperature is always 98.6 - since the exponents of this nonsense all have their heads stuck up their *sses.


30 posted on 01/20/2016 11:22:05 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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