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U.S. Boat Crew Navigation Error, Not Technology Tampering Led to Seizure of 10 Sailors by Iran
USNI News ^ | January 28, 2016 11:42 AM | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 01/29/2016 9:24:15 AM PST by Retain Mike

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To: headsonpikes
Never mind GPS, I rely on dead reckoning - it tells me that the Obama regime lies like a rug

Not to be nitpicky or anything, but the proper spelling is "ded reckoning," which is short for "deduced reckoning," using bearing and speed.

21 posted on 01/29/2016 10:50:41 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Travis McGee

That is right. He was never my friend. That was an editing error on my part. I do think he made a good guess.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 11:06:18 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: JoeFromSidney

Actually, not.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dea7.htm

World Wide Words: Dead reckoning

Q From Don Monson: I just came across this sentence about navigation from an old Flight Simulator book: “Dead reckoning (DR), sometimes referred to as ‘ded reckoning’ since it is short for ‘deduced reckoning,’ is actually a more scientific approach to navigation than pilotage.” Is this origin for the term correct?

A It’s always fun to learn about a popular etymology. No, it’s not correct. Not even close.

But a search shows that the story is widely believed and appears in a lot of reference books, mainly US ones on navigation. I’ve even found an example in a US patent (number 6046565): “Ded-reckoning, often called dead-reckoning in error, is a shortening of the term deduced reckoning.”

I’m indebted to The Straight Dope for a detailed discussion of the matter back in 2002, which is much fuller than I would attempt here. In essence, the writer states that the tale is first recorded in a work of 1931 but that it became common during World War Two. My own enquiries support the latter point, examples starting with Leland Lovette’s 1939 book, Naval Customs, Traditions and Usage, and becoming frequent during the war years. It seems to have got a fair hold on people by the time this item appeared in the Oakland Tribune on 24 January 1947:

A friend of mine who prides himself on being a precisionist, went to see “Dead Reckoning” the other night and I asked him how he liked it. “Oh, the picture was fine,” he said, “but the title ...” “What’s wrong with the title?” I asked. He looked down his nose at me. “There’s no such thing as ‘dead reckoning’,” he replied. “It’s ‘Ded’ Reckoning, which is short for ‘Deduced Reckoning’. Ask any navigator.”

This supposed derivation is given some credence in the Fourth Edition of the American Heritage Dictionary, which states the story without any alternative, though it does prefix it with “possibly”. Every other dictionary on my shelves either keeps quiet or follows the evidence that’s laid out in the Oxford English Dictionary.

That shows that dead reckoning, in that spelling, has been in the language since the early seventeenth century. It had much the same sense then as it does now, that of estimating the position of a vessel from its speed, direction of travel and time elapsed, making use of log, compass and clock. The alternatives were pilotage, which made use of visible landmarks, and celestial navigation by the sun, moon and stars.

What makes deduced reckoning and ded reckoning seem plausible is that dead reckoning doesn’t make sense, even though you might end up dead if you got your sums wrong. Writers are divided on which sense of dead the old-time mariners had in mind. Was it perhaps the idea of being as still as a corpse, so referring your position to a point that’s dead in the water? Or is it something completely or absolutely so, exact or precise, as in dead level, dead wrong, or dead ahead? The OED plumps for the latter.

As so often happens, we are left in a state of less-than-perfect understanding about the reason for an expression coming into being, but the one thing we can be sure of is that dead reckoning has no link with deduced reckoning or the abbreviated ded. recko


23 posted on 01/29/2016 11:16:30 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: CodeToad

Functioning NDB’s are hard to find. The Feds are eventually doing away with terrestrial nav aids.


24 posted on 01/29/2016 11:39:49 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: headsonpikes

You have only made me more confused!


25 posted on 01/29/2016 12:25:40 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: Retain Mike

Just read about a technical problem with an older bird in the GPS constellation, transmitting bad timing signals which translate into multi-kilometer accuracy errors.

Official date of failure is listed as 26 Jan 2016-—after notice of a time error by a radio astronomy operation in Finland which posted a complaint. This is the date ‘verified users’ replicated the error finding per a spokesperson for the USAF 50th Space Wing at Schriever Air Base, Colorado.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 1:06:19 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

http://www.itnews.com.au/news/satellite-failure-caused-global-gps-timing-anomaly-414237


27 posted on 01/29/2016 1:11:02 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Like most comments this reminds me of a sea story. On my watch as we approached Okinawa from the North, the LORAN plotted us about 50 miles closer to the island than we were. Now the quartermaster of the watch could have messed up one fix, but several is a stretch. That is why the Navy always needs at least two navigation systems and one not tied to satellites. I saw in my Proceedings that they are going to start teaching celestial navigation again.


28 posted on 01/29/2016 1:36:09 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: headsonpikes
Okay, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
29 posted on 01/29/2016 7:41:45 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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