Posted on 02/03/2016 5:38:02 PM PST by Linda Frances
This is a fact: from Trump owning of strip clubs to his bragging about sleeping around to his Nietzsche-esque notions of power. Moore believes that a leaders moral behavior will affect his leadership, so he argues that no Christian should support a candidate like Trump. This will not convince all Christians, but at least it’s an argument grounded in the fact of Trumps moral behavior.
(Excerpt) Read more at christianitytoday.com ...
Thats understandable given many things Trump says and supports. Like banning all Muslims from coming to America. Like shooting the families of terrorists. Like suggesting that if he himself shot someone, his fans would still rise up and rally around him.
Donald Trump sometimes acts like hes a messiah—Ted Cruz calls it his “messiah complex.†But Trump is only a demagogue. This is not meant as a critique as much as a fact: A demagogue is “a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.†Trump does in fact appeal to popular desires, some of which are prejudices, and he tends to scorn rational argument, even eschewing debates now.
But in large measure, Trumps detractors are eschewing rational argument as well. Instead of presenting an argument why banning all Muslims is bad policy (why it doesnt make demographic sense, why it will likely make terrorism worse, and so on), most just exclaim, “Unbelievable!†and “that’s Hitleresque.†Trump is rightly critiqued for fear mongering and demagoguery, but his detractors are sometimes his mirror image.
This sort of political discourse is starting to affect how evangelicals talk about Trump. A notable exception is Russell Moore. He has consistently presented a line of argument—and not just name calling. His major thesis is that Trump is immoral by Christian standards. This is a fact: from Trump’s owning of strip clubs to his bragging about sleeping around to his Nietzsche-esque notions of power. Moore believes that a leader’s moral behavior will affect his leadership, so he argues that no Christian should support a candidate like Trump. This will not convince all Christians, but at least its an argument grounded in the fact of Trumps moral behavior.
Unfortunately there is little argument displayed by either side, only fearful allusions as to what will happen if Trump does or does not get elected. Whats more troubling is the talk of excommunication. After Falwell endorsed Trump yesterday, immediately some anti-Trump evangelicals started wondering if this signals a major breach in evangelicalism: “Now that Falwell Jr and other self-described evangelicals have thrown in with Trump, I wonder if we are seeing the beginnings of another significant divergence.†This writer is only expressing in public what many evangelicals on both sides will be more and more tempted to say. “How can you be a Christian and support/critique Donald Trump?â€
It brings to mind the political battles in the days of when the Relgious Right was in its ascendency. Then the bright line of Christian orthodoxy was whether you were a Democrat or a Republican, with some Christians actually wondering about the faith of those believers in the other party.
Yeah well...
I heard Jerry Falwell Jr. endorsed Trump...
How can a mere man threaten the Gospel? People are getting carried away with nonsense.
A large segment of evangelicals look at Donald Trump and his followers and want to run in the opposite direction.
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well so much for those idiots whomever they might be....
but Christians know about forgiveness and not judging...
Did this same group warn us aboit the “One?” What a bunch of self righteous junk.
I am a Southern Baptist, and Russell Moore can STFU!!! Moore is a pro-amnesty pimp that tries to cloak his nonsense with Christian terminology.
What a bunch of loons.
Amen and agree, Jim.
Falwell Jr. is a businessman who doesn’t follow in his father’s footsteps.
Charisma Magazine
“The late Dr. Jerry Falwell Sr. would be rolling over in his grave if he knew the son who bore his name had endorsed the most immoral and ungodly man to ever run for President of the United States,†John Stemberger, president of Florida Family Action, said in a statement Monday. “Trump is a thrice married owner of casing with strip clubs and would give us the first ‘First Lady’ who has proudly posed in the nude while supporting gay marriage and funding Planned Parenthood with taxpayer money.â€
They did a real bang up job stopping gay marriage.
But Trump is the real threat.
We don’t need a preacher in the WH. We don’t need the government in the Church. We need a leader that will create jobs, bomb the bad guys and gals (yes and even the bad kids. )When people don’t vote because the Candidate isn’t Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, or any of the other Christian sects....they get an Obama, Hilary or Bernie Sanders.
Is this from Mad Magazine?
But enough about Newt.
Exactly.
I’d really like to know one thing from a factual standpoint.
Does Trump REALLY own a strip club? I mean on his P&L does he have a location and operation that is truly a strip club?
When you’re buying up real estate and need a ton of it there’s an interim period where you may own the land/building until everyone sells that you need to sell before you can build and “technically” own a strip club since it’s an existing business on a strip of land you own.
I’m not seeing how a strip club fits in the 50+ story landmark high rise, world class hotel, world class golf course portfolio. Honestly, I just don’t.
That’s like Macy’s or Nordstrom being in the pawn business.
Being facetious here, but actually, truthful: Amen.
Christ's one act of physical action and anger was against the secular money changers in the church, "It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer, but ye have made it a den of thieves." - Matthew 21:13
And why was this? Because the temple was being polluted with wrongful secular activity. Look within the church itself and those false leaders cloaking themselves in piety. It ain't Trump. Hint... Ted Cruz.
When Christians accept Trumps behavior, we are telling our children and grandchildren character doesn’t matter. (how come it did matter to conservatives when Bill Clinton was in office) we are legitimizing adultery, sexual promiscuity....
Psalm 1:1
How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!
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