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'Death by GPS' in desert
The Sacramento Bee ^ | January 30, 2011 12:00 AM | Tom Knudson

Posted on 02/11/2016 8:31:39 PM PST by Utilizer

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To: Vendome

But there are plenty of them along with many, many Manuaels in East Side San Jose, tovarisch. :)


61 posted on 02/11/2016 10:08:11 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: Boogieman

GPS is in GARMAN.....


62 posted on 02/11/2016 10:11:02 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: dp0622

U just need to spend more time OUT West.


63 posted on 02/11/2016 10:11:56 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: onedoug

Thomas Guide provides.


64 posted on 02/11/2016 10:14:51 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Utilizer
Delorme has GPS units that connect to the Iridium satellite network ... will send out an mappable SOS from anywhere, any time ... 100% coverage, 24hrs a day, around the globe.

That being a choice, you're practically completely to blame if you die under these circumstances. Not that it's wise in the first place to drive into Death Valley with no knowledge of the area thinking just GPS is a perfect brain.

65 posted on 02/11/2016 10:18:34 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A, And C Edmund Wright thinks I am an idiot and a Trump Sycophant)
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To: tinyowl
Water , food and shelter are good for the winter travel too.

The Boy Scouts had it right. "Be Prepared".

66 posted on 02/11/2016 10:21:40 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: exDemMom

“I always print a Google map of the place I am going and use that along with the GPS. The GPS and I always get into disagreements about the route.”

That’s what I do.

Before GPS we drove from Seattle to Las Vegas. We drove a lot of secondary roads (three kids - 6 yrs and two 3 year-olds). The best part of the trip was the 200 miles on a dirt road! It was fun for the kids as we would stop and explore. In hindsight probably not the best idea - but a good car, plenty of food and water, and day time and I knew where we were the entire time. We stopped at some abandoned fort (even had a monument on it) in the middle of a sage-covered flat with cows all around. And two small volcanoes at other spots.


67 posted on 02/11/2016 10:23:23 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Utilizer

Joshua Tree is beautiful. Death Valley is trouble for anyone who fails to read a guide book before going there.

My parents’ 2013 Hyundai has a GPS that is useful for local cities alone. It is useless to get help going from Los Angeles to San Francisco. But once in SF and needing to find a local address, the Hyundai GPS does ok.

While iPhone Siri is accurate, I prefer to use AAA maps.


68 posted on 02/11/2016 10:23:42 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Utilizer

There was a case in the news a few years ago in which a couple was following a popular map application and became stranded in the snow on a road normally closed for winter. The husband died of hypothermia.


69 posted on 02/11/2016 10:27:32 PM PST by wideminded
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To: PUGACHEV

Crazy! The same thing happened to me, only I was driving through Ukraine. GPS took me through a Ukrainian military base and out on the firing range before I knew where I was!? Luckily, I back tracked before I was shot...the gate guards have me strange looks though...


70 posted on 02/11/2016 10:28:17 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Utilizer

I’m from the East side and one of the few “wedo’s”, with a pretty boy look.

Just had lunch a couple blocks from James Lick, down White Road.

I think Manuel and Jose made my food, while Florinda served my menudo....yummmm


71 posted on 02/11/2016 10:38:01 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: biff
You would be shocked if you knew how many people today cannot read a simple map.

I've noticed that a lot of women are confused by maps. It is a scientific fact that women on average have more trouble with navigation than men do, which probably relates to the gender roles of our prehistoric ancestors. I'm not sure if female map reading is any worse than it used to me.

72 posted on 02/11/2016 10:38:13 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Parley Baer

I was once camping in the back country of Death Valley with some friends.

They had to go home so I spent the day in Saline Valley (next valley over/big empty place). I met a Cowboy and his Girlfriend who had been stuck there for 24 hours due to a broken down truck. They were really happy to see me.

Gave them a long ride to the nearest town and they gave me a history of the place. Many of the ranches were founded by old Confederate soldiers. Very nice people.

People who think California is just LA and SF have no idea how big and empty some parts are and how different the people are.


73 posted on 02/11/2016 10:42:42 PM PST by crusher2013 (Liberalism is Aristocracy masquerading as equality)
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To: Utilizer

Living at the rural edge of civilization I always throw a flat of water bottles in my vehicle any time there is even a remote chance of being stranded. This costs $5.00 and can save your life. Plus, the water is still good if you don’t drink it on that trip.

Last summer there was an active forest fire and I went to visit a friend 10 miles away. My passenger was baffled when I put the water in the vehicle, but when I said there is a chance we might get stranded for a while by the fire, and I can go a lot longer without food than water, she sort of understood.

I did not bother to explain that the roll of paper towels is a great substitute for TP in an emergency.


74 posted on 02/11/2016 10:44:34 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: alexander_busek

I am implying nothing of the sort. :)

I am simply stating what the level of knowledge is for the devices in question.

“Areas To Be Avoided” is not on their menus, as far as I can determine.


75 posted on 02/11/2016 11:21:54 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: PUGACHEV

In a bit of a roundabout way, you make My point, mate.


76 posted on 02/11/2016 11:23:11 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: dp0622; Lurker; MileHi; hiredhand

Map reading, land navigation, use of GPS, compass, the stars, sextant, the sun etc when used properly or alone will get ya home. I carry two, compasses and two gps devices as well as topographical maps and satellite images of the area traveled when in remote regions 4 wheeling or hunting.

Urban ...yes as you say, simple smartphone swarmed with cell tower data points works well, augmented with artificial waypoints I like to call street signs and addresses.....:o)

Remote regions, wilderness ..... whole different ball game. Map reading is a skill and very reliable.

Lifelong experiences from scouting to military land nav, SERE, geocaching, hashing and outdoor hobbies taught me to double or triple check with all the tools an knowledge at my disposal when / if time allowed.

Sad story here.....


77 posted on 02/11/2016 11:50:23 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Parley Baer

That’s why only potable water goes in the windshield washer reservoir. Along with at least 5 gallon bottle in back.


78 posted on 02/11/2016 11:54:17 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Utilizer

79 posted on 02/12/2016 12:06:08 AM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: Boogieman; Utilizer

They do make GPS’ programmed for Truck Drivers. The routes where they are forbidden to drive on are programmed out.


80 posted on 02/12/2016 12:20:09 AM PST by onona (Where are you tonight, my sweet Marie)
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