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To: conservativejoy

This is the most insane aspect if Trump’s policy. Let’s invite back millions of new Democrat voters.

Cruz says he won’t let them back in. If we have to deport people who have broken our laws, they should NOT be allowed back in.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 2:14:24 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

Before Trumpy is done.... he isn’t even going to deport them. He’ll just legalize them, and then start the wall discussions.


5 posted on 02/12/2016 2:16:21 PM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: conservativejoy
This is the most insane aspect if Trump’s policy. Let’s invite back millions of new Democrat voters.

He said "legal."

He also specifically denied they will become citizens. Not that I expect truth from you people....

19 posted on 02/12/2016 2:23:20 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: conservativejoy

Trump has not made any statement that he has any intention of giving illegals any preference over anyone else. They are going to have to wait at the end of the line. It is time we cut down legal immigration as well as shipping out the people who are here illegally. You are being silly.


21 posted on 02/12/2016 2:23:30 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: conservativejoy

Cruzberger’s syndrome. Yikes.


27 posted on 02/12/2016 2:25:41 PM PST by Stentor ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute." Robert Goodloe Harper)
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To: conservativejoy

Did you ever listen to come back LEGALLY? How could Cruz stop them from coming back. Hispanics we know have at least 5 names (multiple first, second and both parents last names) How would Cruz differentiate which had been here illegally before? Suffice to say that only those coming here legally will come back or just what Trump said.


29 posted on 02/12/2016 2:26:29 PM PST by nclaurel
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To: conservativejoy

What’s really insane is Ted Cruz calling himself a principled conservative (TM) while his Super PAC stuffs millions of dollars of anonymous dirty money into his campaign coffers. There’s nothing principled or conservative about that.


32 posted on 02/12/2016 2:28:42 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: conservativejoy; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

The law if its still on the books is 10 years..

they can apply to come here legally after that period of time

and I think Trump was referring to the children of illegal aliens not the ones who came here as grown ups...


33 posted on 02/12/2016 2:28:53 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: conservativejoy

Keep in mind that once they have “touched back” to their home country....they are out. You get them to leave willingly, then lock the door once they are on the other side of it.

Just a thought.


41 posted on 02/12/2016 2:32:42 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: conservativejoy

Trump is 100 times smarter than that. He’ll bring back only the good ones.

* College Educated
* Business Owners
* Teachers, etc

These will be mainly Conservative folks, not the typical democratic voters.


44 posted on 02/12/2016 2:34:02 PM PST by o2bfree (DNC = RNC :-)
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To: conservativejoy

It is not amnesty to deport illegals and then allow some of them to come back legally that qualify after following the legal process. Amnesty is allowing those here now illegally to remain here untouched under some blanket policy.

Under our immigration laws people are allowed to apply to come here legally. People who are deported may also apply though depending on the conditions of their deportation they may not qualify to come back.

The way immigration laws used to work when they were actually enforced is people found here illegally had a choice to self deport, which does not require going through the courts. If someone had to be forcibly deported after refusing to self deport they were not allowed to come here legally in the future. That was used like a hammer over the illegals to get them to self deport and not clog up our courts.

Anyone elected President will have to allow people deported to be able to apply to come back legally under our current laws. The law would have to be changed for it to be otherwise.


70 posted on 02/12/2016 2:43:32 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: conservativejoy

Liar

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform


112 posted on 02/12/2016 4:14:23 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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To: conservativejoy

Cruz isn’t deporting anybody. They get to stay. That is real amnesty.


116 posted on 02/12/2016 7:56:44 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: conservativejoy
This is the most insane aspect if Trump's policy.

It only sounds insane when it is so drastically misrepresented as it was in this article. Trump has made it clear on many occasions that not all of the deported can come back in and the ones who do will be well-vetted. That they all get to return is the one, most fundamental incorrect assumption that the Trump haters make, even in the face of a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Check out Trump's speech from Beaumont, TX at the 4:26 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KUMb_7LH9Q

Here's what he says about the big door in his wall: "And people will come through the openings in that wall, and we'll have a few of them, and they'll come in and they're going to come in legally into our country." "A few of them" is what he said, not "all of them"--he has never at any time said that he wants all of the deported to come back.

First of all, in his book, Time to Get Tough, his Nov. speech in Knoxville (on YouTube), and various other places, he has made it clear that those with criminal records can never come back in again.

Secondly, he said they can apply to become legal immigrants, but it is important to keep in mind that he has written repeatedly about reforming the legal immigration system to allow the most educated and talented into the country and to keep out those who would damage it and harm American workers. Look at his requirements about the H1-B visas in his policy paper on his website for some of his strategies to ensure that those legal immigrants aren't taking jobs from Americans and driving wages down. If there is a legitimate need, however, he is not against bringing people in from abroad to fill it. This does not mean that he believes the old canard that all the illegals are only doing jobs Americans won't. He wrote in 2011: "We've all heard it a million times: 'We need illegal immigrants because they are willing to do jobs Americans just won't.' To that one I say, 'Says who?' We have 25 million citizens who need jobs, and 7 million illegal immigrants holding American jobs. Do the math..."

As his immigration policy paper on his campaign website says, "We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities' rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream." Another aspect of his position is having immigrants who will not need welfare: "Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S."

In all three of his political books (from 2000, 2011, and 2015), he makes it clear that he thinks we should allow in immigrants who will be an overall benefit to our country. In his 2011 book Time to Get Tough, he wrote that he thinks immigrants need to "bring skills, prosperity, and intellectual capital." He wants to give preference to people with college degrees and skilled work experience (specifically in desired fields that need workers). In that book, he wrote more about the welfare issue: "America doesn't need freeloaders who come here to live off our welfare system."

In his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he wrote: "Legal immigrants do not and should not enter easily...It comes down to this: We must take care of our own people first. Our policy to people born elsewhere should be clear: Enter by the law, or leave." He then discusses the deportations that were happening each year and adds: "But it's still not good enough. It's irresponsible to give a helping hand to outsiders so long as there is one American deprived of a livelihood or basic services."

In his newest book, Crippled America, he talks of using the immigration system to "reward achievement and excellence." He says, "Our current immigration laws are upside down--they make it tough on the people we need to have here, and easy for the people we don't want here." He then talks about how we should be bringing in "the smartest, hardest-working people born in other countries."

126 posted on 02/12/2016 11:58:39 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: conservativejoy

Cruz now says he wouldn’t, but he has supported legalization in the past and until very recently he wouldn’t say what he’d do with the illegals here presently.

I don’t really trust either of them on this issue—but for now Cruz has the advantage because of his current official position.


129 posted on 02/13/2016 12:04:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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