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Wiki page about 1796 election with EV breakdown: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1796

Wiki page about James Iredell: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Iredell

Wiki page about Samuel Johnston: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Johnston

1 posted on 02/21/2016 12:18:51 AM PST by matt1234
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To: matt1234

Here is the key, when the Constitution was written, it said that anyone that was here when the Constitution was written is eligible. Basically if you busted your butt to help us win the war, you can be President.

I don’t have the exact wording, but that is the gist of it. I’m tired, but wanted to reply before I went to sleep.


2 posted on 02/21/2016 12:36:56 AM PST by mrsadams
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To: EternalVigilance

Ping


3 posted on 02/21/2016 12:37:13 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party for President the only person to restore the Republic)
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To: matt1234

Thanks for your research.


4 posted on 02/21/2016 12:43:29 AM PST by LowOiL (Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.)
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To: matt1234

Both “citizens at the time of adoption”

You haven’t helped Cruz.


5 posted on 02/21/2016 12:49:01 AM PST by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: matt1234

A few years ago when researching Sen.Obama, I came across a footnote that piqued my interest: it stated that the U.S.Senate had the power to eject from their body any Senator who was deemed ineligible. It mentioned that during the 19th century two Senators, neither of whom were U.S. citizens, experienced just that. Their names were struck from the records as never having existed.

One of the gentlemen involved became a U.S. citizen, waited for the required number of years and was again chosen by his state to be a Senator in Congress.

Senator Cruz should do something to repair his U.S. citizenship, or he just might find himself without any country at all and Texas may not have a say in it.


7 posted on 02/21/2016 1:07:31 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: matt1234

In 1796, no one who was old enough to be president had been born in the US, because the US didn’t exist at the time of their birth.


8 posted on 02/21/2016 1:21:35 AM PST by Hepsabeth
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To: matt1234

You might consider researching the Constitution of the United States one of these days.


9 posted on 02/21/2016 1:40:21 AM PST by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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To: matt1234

If they resided here at time of Constitution ratification they became citizens like anyone else at that time....who qualified


10 posted on 02/21/2016 1:42:39 AM PST by wardaddy (Boy the nasties are sure out in force here.....I hope someone is saving this...Trump Cruz that order)
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To: matt1234

The person elected President that year (John Adams) wasn’t born in the US either.

But if you actually read the Constiution you would see that it allowed for that to happen.


17 posted on 02/21/2016 2:31:15 AM PST by sipow
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To: matt1234

Nobody who ran before 1824 could have been born a citizen of the United States.


19 posted on 02/21/2016 3:06:59 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: matt1234

You might want to watch this video:

http://powderedwigsociety.com/eligibility-of-cruz-and-rubio/#


38 posted on 02/21/2016 5:04:13 AM PST by Baldwin77
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To: matt1234

Oh, well the, that will change everyone’s mind. Thanks for posting.

Of course, the constitution explicitly states they were eligible in 1796.

So, you prove nothing.

Thanks for playing.

//All sarc.


39 posted on 02/21/2016 5:05:12 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: matt1234

You don’t need to go back so far, McCain was born in Panama.


40 posted on 02/21/2016 5:05:25 AM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: matt1234
Article 2, section 1, subsection 5:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

45 posted on 02/21/2016 5:18:11 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: matt1234

Yes, people who were citizens at the time of the founding, even thought “foreign born,” were eligible. In addition to the two persons who received electoral votes in that election, this included Alexander Hamilton (born in the British West Indies, but a citizen at the time of the Founding). Sometimes, I hear people assert that Hamilton wasn’t qualified, but he was.

Another person whose qualification was at one time controversial was Vice President Charles Curtis. Curtis was born on an Indian reservation (his mother was a member of an Indian tribe) in Kansas Territory, back in 1860. At the time, the status of Indians on reservations was, well, controversial. At a later time, the Supreme Court ruled that Indians on reservations were citizens of the United States (because the tribal nations were sufficiently subordinated to the U.S.). Under the theory that natural born means citizen at birth, he was natural born because at least one of his parents (his father) was a citizen regardless of his place of birth.


48 posted on 02/21/2016 5:23:49 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: matt1234

They were citizens when the Constitution was enacted, therefore they were eligible. There were no natural born citizens until the Constitution was in force. Even those born in Virginia or Massachusetts were born in England, prior to the existence of this country.


55 posted on 02/21/2016 8:58:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: matt1234
Article II Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Apparently they don't have you read the Constitution for civics any more.

56 posted on 02/21/2016 9:00:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: matt1234

Because of the grandfather clause. And no one born before the establishment of the United States of America was born in the USA. ‘Cause it didn’t exist.


66 posted on 02/21/2016 12:12:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue Ht the testing point. CSLewis)
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