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To: Bratch
The unexamined question is whether Trump is not himself a globalist, despite his very recent comments to the contrary. And for all of those evangelicals who support Trump, here is Paul on the question of leadership.

Timothy, Chapter 3, regarding the qualifications for a leader: He must "be of even temper, self-controlled, modest, and hospitable . . . he ought not to be contentious . . . HE SHOULD NOT BE A NEW CONVERT, lest he become conceited . . . he must also be well thought-of by those outside the church, to ensure that he does not fall into disgrace . . . " And so forth.
10 posted on 02/21/2016 2:58:17 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

1 Tim 3 is regarding a leader of believers. Specially a Bishop and not a political leader or ruler of a country.

One is a spiritual leader and the other is a political leader or ruler of a nation or country. In my opinion they have completely different qualifications and responsibilities.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 3:25:41 PM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: Steve_Seattle
"He must "be of even temper, self-controlled, modest, and hospitable . . . he ought not to be contentious . . . HE SHOULD NOT BE A NEW CONVERT, lest he become conceited . . . he must also be well thought-of by those outside the church, to ensure that he does not fall into disgrace . . . "

1. We are not hiring a pastor.

2. What many are missing is that Trump's 'outbursts' are not temper tantrums. They are demonstrations, he is well in control of them, virtually to the point that he is only acting. If you have a problem with a politician acting, grow up, they all do it and have to do it for a very stilly electorate 80% of which does not respond to reason, hence the need to act.

To test this theory: We know that Hillary, who appears in control, has a long long long history of abusing staff. When you can come up with example of Donald Trump abusing associates and business partners - and I'm not here talking about being a demanding boss or business man - I'm talking about childish outbursts, I will start to entertain the idea that he's not in virtual total control of his expressions of anger. But also keep in mind, when you pee, you have to actually pee something, you can't just talk about peeing. When you are angry - you must yell where no one is listening. You must express.

But don't be fooled totally by Trump tailoring his outbursts not because he's out of control, but because he's demonstrating a point. You don't like it you say? Maybe it's because the rest of us are comprehending something you're missing, not the other way around. Yes we see the so called tantrums. But what you fail to recognize is there is not INNER tantrum going on. He's communicating with a country the makes it's choices on an emotional level.

Have you noticed that it's working? It's mostly by design, although I will not say devoid of anger. It's not a total act - the energy is real, but the expression of it is controlled and placed.

57 posted on 02/21/2016 3:39:40 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: Steve_Seattle
That Biblical reference is concerning a church leader, not a national leader.

Even King David was suitable as a national leader to God. And he had a man killed so he could marry his wife.

There's a whole bunch of mortal sin in that story.

And Jesus was a descendant of David.

And it was Jesus that told us to respect and yield to Caesar and his government.

God has always drawn a clear line between government of man and government of Heaven.

59 posted on 02/21/2016 3:43:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Timothy said that about the president, huh?

That’s qualifications for a Church leader, not Caesar!

I do not want to elect an evangelical for president. It is fine if he is one, but that’s not his primary job.

We need a real ruthless leader to confront the devils of THIS world, not usher us into the next.


91 posted on 02/21/2016 4:54:04 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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