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Encryption is here to stay: Secure messaging app Telegram hits 100 million users
zdnet.com ^ | February 24, 2016 | By Steve Ranger

Posted on 02/24/2016 9:26:56 AM PST by dennisw

Messaging service now delivering 15 billion messages every day, adding 350,000 users a day.

Secure messaging app Telegram has hit 100 million monthly active users -- with 350,000 new users signing up each day. The company said it is delivering 15 billion messages a day, up from August last year when the app was transmitting 10 billion messages each day.

Telegram allows users to send messages, photos, videos, and files of any type (doc, zip, MP3, etc), as well as create groups for up to 1,000 people or channels for broadcasting messages to larger audiences. It's free to use, which explains much of the attraction, but Telegram also emphasises the security of messages sent using the service.

It uses two levels of encryption: server-client encryption is used in private and group 'cloud chats', while its 'secret chats' use end-to-end encryption and "leave no trace on our servers, support self-destructing messages and don't allow forwarding", the company said. These chats are not part of the Telegram cloud and can only be accessed on their devices of origin.

Telegram launched for iOS on August 14, 2013, and for Android on October 20, 2013. It is now available on iOS (6 and above), Android (2.2 and up), and Windows Phone. There is also a web version and desktop apps for Windows, OS X, and Linux.

The increasing use of encrypted services is leading to complaints from law enforcement and spies that they can no longer easily access communications, allowing criminals and others to plan in secret.

The level of security offered by Telegram has worried some governments, which fear such technologies could be used by terrorists, but the company FAQ notes: "While we do block terrorist (e.g. ISIS-related) bots and channels, we will not block anybody who peacefully expresses alternative opinions" In January, Telegram said it had banned over 660 public ISIS channels since November and was removing five to 10 daily.

Still, such services cannot protect communications from all prying eyes. It can help when it comes to data transfer and secure communication, which means data sent and received via Telegram "cannot be deciphered when intercepted by your ISP, network administrator or other third parties".

But it adds: "Please remember that we cannot protect you from your own mother if she takes your phone. Or from your IT department if they access your computer at work. Or from any other people that get physical or root access to your phones or computers running Telegram."


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: encryption; internet
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1 posted on 02/24/2016 9:26:56 AM PST by dennisw
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so Apple encryption is irrelevant. One can encrypt communications this way via a free app.

I suppose an iphone user can double encrypt with “Telegram” just to be sure


2 posted on 02/24/2016 9:28:42 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Informative good article


3 posted on 02/24/2016 9:29:41 AM PST by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: dennisw

I don’t have anything that important on my phone. Contact list and meaningless texts to children and wife.


4 posted on 02/24/2016 9:30:32 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

5 posted on 02/24/2016 9:31:11 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dennisw
To be honest, if I were a terrorist I would only use my smartphone for non-terrorist activities like ordering pizza, horsing around on Facebook, the flashlight app, the weather, playing music, and so on. I would pick up a pre-paid cheapie anonymous phone for my actual terrorist-related work activities.

Better yet, I would make my notes, maps, plans, lists and stuff like that using old-fashioned pen and paper which can be burned after I'm done with it. But, that's just me.

6 posted on 02/24/2016 9:33:05 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Resolute Conservative

“I don’t have anything that important on my phone. Contact list and meaningless texts to children and wife.”

What??? You mean you don’t have a private email server for conducting classified government business? I thought EVERYBODY had one of those!


7 posted on 02/24/2016 9:34:06 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dennisw

This is what the USPS should be doing. It should eliminate mail service and become both a social media site and a secure messaging app.


8 posted on 02/24/2016 9:41:32 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I don't have anything that important on my phone. Contact list and meaningless texts to children and wife.

So what? Shall we use you as a litmus test for the legality of encryption availability?

9 posted on 02/24/2016 9:42:50 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Absolutely not, unless you just want to...


10 posted on 02/24/2016 9:43:55 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Then I don’t get your point.


11 posted on 02/24/2016 9:47:53 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

My point is only visible if you have a Rijndael token key.


12 posted on 02/24/2016 9:58:04 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

How resolute a conservative can you really be?

why are you even on Free Republic?


13 posted on 02/24/2016 10:10:29 AM PST by gaijin
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To: dennisw

Different types of encryption.
Apple locks the door to your home.
Telegram puts a lock on the mail leaving your home.

If Telegram is doing what I think they are, its not really that secure.


14 posted on 02/24/2016 10:14:19 AM PST by Zathras
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> so Apple encryption is irrelevant.

Now, now, Dennis, you know better than that.

This app is a cute limited-use item that helps in one particular circumstance. It has value. But it's like saying that because someone is selling a VW Beetle, that no one else has any need for a moving van, an 18-wheeler, a farm tractor, a backhoe, etc.

Apple's encryption covers much more than the simple messaging done by Telegram.

15 posted on 02/24/2016 10:45:21 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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Interesting. Never heard of Telegram. It appears to be in the Fedora Linux repository though...

Name        : telegram-cli
Arch        : x86_64
Version     : 1.3.1
Release     : 3.20150710gitcf6cb9.fc21
Size        : 818 k
Repo        : updates/21/x86_64
Summary     : Linux Command-line interface for Telegram
URL         : https://github.com/vysheng/tg
License     : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+
Description : Telegram is an Open Source instant messaging platform for mobile and
            : desktop focused on privacy.
            : This is a Linux Command-line interface for Telegram.
 

16 posted on 02/24/2016 10:46:39 AM PST by zeugma (Lon Horiuchi is the true face of the feral government. Remember that. Always.)
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To: gaijin

What does encryption have to do with browsing the FR?


17 posted on 02/24/2016 10:59:31 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Maybe the USpS can go away along with the IRS and the rest of government. hope so


19 posted on 02/24/2016 1:49:13 PM PST by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: dayglored

Apple encryption is irrelevant......What I meant is the FBI’s obsession with breaking Apple encryption is bit of a side show if any jamoke can send encrypted messages this way via telegram


20 posted on 02/24/2016 3:01:42 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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