Posted on 03/01/2016 9:25:09 PM PST by dayglored
So why not now?
According to reports, the phone had not been backed up for 6 weeks. Apple provided that data to the FBI weeks ago.
The phone should automatically back up to iCloud if it is plugged in and connected to a known WiFi network. Apple recommended to the FBI that they place the phone in the terrorist's work office where it could connect to the office WiFi, and plug it in so that the iCloud backup would be triggered. However, when the FBI had the Apple ID password changed, the password on the account and the one saved on the phone no longer matched - so iCloud would no longer back up until the password was changed on the phone (which they cannot do because the phone is locked)!
Exactly!
I’m even more disillusioned with the fbi than i am with cruz, namely, i had always assumed the fbi had a cracker-jack
cyber team. i guess competence has been destroyed here by obama just like everywhere else in the FedGov, what with
LGBTXYZness, skin color, gender, green light bulbs, green diesel fuel, and all the rest being WAY, WAY more important
than mere competence.
Let’s hope President Trump can repair some of this damage.
Very well said, bears repeating. You don't put astronauts and valuables on untested rockets that might go bang. You need to test on mockups to see if it works before betting all your marbles.
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They did ask Apple for advice, which Apple gave and the FBI disregarded.
Mr. Sewell, the Apple lawyer, explained to the committee that before F.B.I. officials ordered the password reset, Apple first wanted them to try to connect the phone to a “known” Wi-Fi connection that Mr. Farook had used. Doing so might have recovered information saved to the phone since October, when it was last connected to iCloud.
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“With all due respect to the F.B.I., they didn’t do what Apple had suggested they do in order to retrieve the data, correct?” Mr. Gowdy asked the director. “I mean, when they went to change the password, that kind of screwed things up, did it not?”
He was speaking about now. Apple received a search warrant for the terrorists' iCloud account information and turned it over to the FBI. That's never been in question. Apple was custodian of those data and was properly served a search warrant for those data and properly complied.
Me thinks this phone is locked and will never be ‘cracked’ because the gubmint bankrolled and planned the SB attack. SOMETHING is being willfully covered-up here and THIS is why the FBI or gubmint ‘hack’ employee botched the phone ON PURPOSE.
P.S. Remember clue #1: There were three shooters MULTIPLE witnesses reported.
The article reads as if they DID call Apple and then ignored Apple's advice and went ahead with their own wrong headed ideas. From the arcticle:
"Mr. Sewell, the Apple lawyer, explained to the committee that before F.B.I. officials ordered the password reset, Apple first wanted them to try to connect the phone to a “known” Wi-Fi connection that Mr. Farook had used. Doing so might have recovered information saved to the phone since October, when it was last connected to iCloud."
There perhaps may be a "would have" missing from that testimony, but it reads as if Apple had been consulted before the FBI instructed the County IT department to reset the iCloud password.
That is not quite an accurate statement, UCANSEE2.
Apple said they "could"— meaning it was within their abilities with some work— 'unlock' the phone.
Apple actually has not 'unlocked' any of the later iPhones they have received for Search Warrants in the past. They've retrieved the un-encrypted data that was on those iPhones, which was limited, that was within reach of their abilities. Earlier iPhones, iPhone 4 and earlier, were totally unencrypted and therefore the data were fully recoverable. iPhone 4s and above was beginning to be less recoverable as encryption became more user controlled with the A5 processor.
Aside from that, the terrorists were using burner phones which they erased, destroyed, and then threw in a lake close by. The iPhone was found in the car after they were killed.
There wasn’t anything on it relating to terror.
The FBI just wanted Apple to build a program whereby the FBI could hack into any iPhone (or possibly any smart phone).
But, as Rush explained, if the County offices that employed the terrorists had just programmed the phone before they handed it to the terrorists, they could have been reading the data from it all along. Total incompetence.
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They either definition purpose or they are very inept.
I have had dealings with numerous government agencies over the decades. My overwhelming impression is incompetence or a lack of caring. I have, of course, come across individuals who did a good job. But they are swamped in a morass of people who do a bad job.
Why bother providing good service when just being there is enough? For the most part they would need to kill someone at work to get fired. Even then, I suspect counselling would be tried first.
Here is just one story. I worked for Fairchild Weston EMR. At this point we had 80% of the world-wide crash recorder market. We needed to switch from high failure rate carbon resistors to metal film; a huge improvement with zero risk. We had a consultant who had an office inside the FAA offices. Each Monday morning he would start out to get signatures on an engineering change notice to make the resistor change. Around Thursday people who had signed the document earlier in the week would hunt him up to find out of the document was signed off. If it was not they would withdraw their signature. Nobody wanted to go into a weekend with an open document bearing their signature in case a crash occurred and it was tied back to the change. They wanted the cover of everybody buying into the change first so they could not be blamed if anything went wrong. If this sounds absurd, then you do not understand how civil servants think. It took months to get this simple change approved.
This avoidance of blame by never doing anything is so common at all levels in all agencies that the agencies are close to useless. The jobs are simply a way of redistributing wealth.
Why not give us the name of the person who changed the password and ask him why he did it?
In 1966 my part day job taked me to delivery plans and specificstions to Corp of Engineers in DC. At about 3pm I entered the office where six enginerrs were playing poker. Had to wait through three hands before someone finally got up to inspect the package and sign off. Lesson learned early in my life.
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