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Why I Don't Buy Organic, And Why You Might Not Want To Either
Forbes ^ | 10 Mar, 2016 | Steven Savage

Posted on 03/21/2016 6:33:08 PM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: artichokegrower

I spent years working with two of the biggest producers in the valley. Around 2000, the first big nationwide recall of fresh produce from e coli contamination I can remember occurred with an organic firm over in San Benito.


61 posted on 03/21/2016 8:08:24 PM PDT by Baynative (The people promising to raise taxes and support abortion are already rich and already born.)
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To: okie01

It is a good book, based on sound science. Written by a cardiologist. If you have the time it is an interesting read. I have lost 8 lbs, giving it up and I haven’t increased my exercise at all.


62 posted on 03/21/2016 8:16:47 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Yaelle
Eat the least amount of neurotoxins possible.

Nicotine is a neurotoxin produced by the tobacco plant to kill insects, however in humans it helps with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Insect neurotoxins might not be always bad for humans.

63 posted on 03/21/2016 8:18:26 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
Honestly, I'm not a target for the book. I've never had a weight problem. Moreover, I hail from wheat country -- the very heart of it. Grew up with wheatfields to the horizon in every direction.

And I've seem the yield target steadily grow from 20 bu/A to over 40 bu/A -- importantly due to steadily improved hybrids.

64 posted on 03/21/2016 8:29:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

And a GMO variety is nothing but a hybrid arrived at in the lab rather than in the field


HA HA HA !!

CLEARLY you are a product of gummit schools !!!

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BS <======================


65 posted on 03/21/2016 8:41:28 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: okie01

It’s good you don’t have a weight problem. You probably eat a pretty balanced diet. The truth is most Americans eat too much of it so are those yields really necessary? or merely providing profit for big ag at the expense of American’s health. It is possible to live pretty easily and cheaply without wheat.


66 posted on 03/21/2016 8:41:30 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Reeses

tobacco plant to kill insects, however in humans it helps with Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.


Give us a LINK please ?!


67 posted on 03/21/2016 8:42:44 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: MtnClimber

I buy organic when possible, use non-hydrogenated oils, non-pasteurized butter, non cured bacon, farm eggs. I am a beekeeper, and I know what pesticides sprayed near my land can do to my bee hives - and I don’t want to consume pesticides myself. I wash my produce really well just the same before using it.


68 posted on 03/21/2016 8:43:46 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( I would LOVE to have my old "substandard" insurance back. It didn't cost $1300 a month.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
...are those yields really necessary? or merely providing profit for big ag at the expense of American’s health...

To pay for the equipment and operating expenses, you damn right those yields are necessary!

Roughly half of the wheat crop is exported. American farmers feed the world...

69 posted on 03/21/2016 8:49:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: PraiseTheLord

It is true although I’m too tired tonight to pull up links. Google nicotine and Alzheimers or nicotine and Parkinsons. Also caffeine.


70 posted on 03/21/2016 8:53:04 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: PraiseTheLord
Study finds nicotine safe, helps in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's
71 posted on 03/21/2016 8:53:43 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: okie01

The fact remains American’s have an obesity problem and eat way to much wheat because it is cheap... and hybridization has made it cheap.


72 posted on 03/21/2016 8:53:49 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: PraiseTheLord
Well, how was I wrong, then?

Help me out here...

73 posted on 03/21/2016 9:02:10 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Shirly you jest !

What Monsanto does IN THE LAB is not anything that could possibly happen IN NATURE.

Sheesh . Them Public Schools, sad.


74 posted on 03/21/2016 9:10:42 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: longfellowsmuse
...hybridization has made it cheap.

You realize that, in most circumstances, that would be perceived as a benefit?

75 posted on 03/21/2016 9:12:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: PraiseTheLord
What Monsanto does IN THE LAB is not anything that could possibly happen IN NATURE.

Sounds to me that's one o the advantages of doing it in the lab.

76 posted on 03/21/2016 9:23:44 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: longfellowsmuse

The organic food industry is driven by hard leftist who worship an idealized version of nature as God. (I used to own an organic farm BTW, I have dealt with them)

They are are responsible - DIRECTLY - for the blindness in 1000’s of children a year. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice.

These are the same people that want to reduce the human population of Earth to 500 million.

They also consistently lie about the level of chemicals in food and the health benefits of “organic.” They lie about the benefits of organic agricultural methods as well as organic foods. They also equate bad agricultural practice with normal practice to bolster their claims erroneously.

They ignore facts like organic cotton is only at competitive prices because non-organic farmers used pesticide to eradicate - as in make nearly extinct - the Bowl Weevil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boll_weevil

The people that control the organic movement are absolutely evil because they are, anti-human.

They are also anti-science trading on fear with claims of “Franken-food”

They justify their support of organic foods to claim a fake moral superiority. They claim they “care” more than you do.

It isn’t about better taste, because in double blind taste test ( Where neither cook or taster know which is which) organic foods are consistently found less appealing and less tasty than non-organic products

Organic works for small farms it does not work for commercial farming


77 posted on 03/21/2016 9:24:46 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: MtnClimber
I recently retired from the fruit and produce industry.

There are more sprays put on organic fruit than on conventional fruit.

Why? Because the spray compounds labeled for organic are not as effective and those put on conventional fruit. So the farmer is constantly spraying.

When it comes to nutritional value, there is no difference between the two.

The spray manual for organic labeled compounds is twice as thick in pages than that for conventional fruit. Why? Because the more a compound is used the less effective it becomes in controlling the pests. So, there has to be a lot of change ups.

If you are afraid of pesticides, then wash your fruit and produce before consuming it. A good washing will get rid of any residue that may survive the packing processes.

One last piece of information. Systemic sprays are no longer used and haven't been for decades. Why? Because those are compounds that can enter the produce and are illegal to use. All the present compounds used are surface and are geared to control pests though Integrated Pest Management by utilizing the pests development cycle.

78 posted on 03/21/2016 9:26:24 PM PDT by Parmy (I)
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To: longfellowsmuse
The fact remains American’s have an obesity problem and eat way to much wheat because it is cheap...

Who are we to blame for this state of affairs, though? The wheat farmer? Or the obese?

79 posted on 03/21/2016 9:40:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Ditter

And picked by jose who just dug at that itchy spot in his ass and didn’t wash his hands.


80 posted on 03/21/2016 9:41:05 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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