[Arthur McGowan]

All states have always had the right to secede from the Union. Many states, such as Texas, retained that right explicitly in the very articles by which their legislature approved entering the Union.

The Declaration of Independence declares the natural right of people to secede from any political unit of which they have been a part. The existence of that natural right is among the “self-evident truths” listed in the Declaration.

Lincoln WAS a tyrant and a mass murderer. He made war against states for exercising a natural right declared in the Declaration. Thus, Lincoln nullified the Declaration.

The “Union,” ever since its victory over the Confederacy, has been a tyrannical empire, claiming many absurd prerogatives—such as the claim that it is “indivisible.”

The people living in it have enjoyed many personal freedoms, but those freedoms are not based on the rights of the people. Rather, those freedoms have been tolerated by the tyrants running the country while they went about the slow business of turning the country into an overt tyranny.

[Nifster]

Then perhaps it is time for you to live somewhere else

Nice revisionism but oh so wrong

[Starboard]

Outstanding post.

I wonder if Lincoln had had the wisdom to foresee the eventual terrible human costs and deprivation of the Civil War would he have still pursued it? At some point the costs of the war became self-evident. Perhaps there may have been an opportunity for a truce between the two sides before things got out of hand.

[Hulka]

“Many states, such as Texas, retained that right explicitly in the very articles by which their legislature approved entering the Union.”

Would you please provide a link for that?

Thanks.

[greeneyes]

Good points and interesting. Since the Federal Government has only enumerated powers, and all others are the province of the various states, wouldn’t succession also be a state’s right issue?

Of course, the question was addressed by the force of the civil war. Not something I’d want to see again, but I wouldn’t mind if some of the more liberal states succeeded today. That way all liberal the movie stars wouldn’t have to leave for a foreign country.