Posted on 07/30/2016 9:46:11 AM PDT by Signalman
NATO HAS NO CHANCE Russias secret super submarine fleet could be unstoppable in World War III scenario, expert warns
And Bill Clinton made sure they had quiet screws
NATO may not, but aside from the U.S., NATO has a minuscule ASW force. Our ASW forces, on the other hand, are modernized and still superior in number, training, and effectiveness vs the Russians. The Russians still rely on their submarine fleet for their capital ships and that fleet is an order of magnitude smaller than in its cold war prime. They are dangerous but not fearless. They may cause havoc but they will still lose.
Quite a sensational headline.......
The cold war “build up” of Russian forces in intelligence, defense, and media circles has begun again. At the end of the cold war, when the fog was lifted, we found out that their military was nowhere near as mighty as we had made it out to be.
Simply pointing that out. I won’t discount the danger of submarines, but saying their sub fleet “could be” unstoppable is absurd. Perfect illustration of how news headlines become more and more like the tabloids at the checkout counter? Click bait. Write something like this about anything and people go “oh my gosh” and they email it to their friends and post it on fakebook and the cycle repeats with clicks galore = money for the author and host website.
Awesome quote -
“Putins band of nuclear powered death machines have already reportedly breached UK waters”
Great stuff. Sounds like a trailer for a new Marverl movie.
... and only Avengers can stop them.
Oh, and Batman.
“A report by naval experts warns that Russia already has a small but sophisticated army of subs which are capable of launching missile strikes across the globe.”
The crew is made up of reptiloids. Submarines are using romulan cloaking devices and armed with photon torpedoes.
Quickly, nuke Russia before it’s too late!
Its probably the most shadowy part of the Russian undersea apparatus. Its not operated by their navy, its operated by a separate branch of their Ministry of Defense.
Hail Hydra!
Actually it was Hitachi and Toshiba sold the tech to the Soviets.
No matter how many times this article is recycled, it’s still bullshit.
If that was intended as a Clinton joke, it needed a *rimshot* or *Bazinga* to make it clear. Because despite my hatred for All Things Clinton, I'm forced to point out that the Toshiba-Kongsberg scandal began a decade before Slick was elected.
That's Traitorclinton. And all he really cares about is the screws he gets on Lolita Island.
I’m more worried about the demoncrats starting a war than Russia. They’re the stable country...we’re NOT.
Sounds like the sun is pulling their stories from sputnik.
During the Clinton years when we never bothered to prosecute those who sold technology that they got from us
And continued through his tenure
If you want to also blame bush feel free
Bill Clinton is all about quiet screws.
I was just wondering. With the current technology available, would it be able to have a submarine that is nuclear powered that is unmanned, drone-like that you could basically take out, put on the bottom and just wait for activation and/or just put it in a slow float or “idle” to keep machinery working but keeping it slow and low enough to avoid sonar?
Just laying out their and waiting for activation. No crew, no worries about supply and just lurking. You could make it come up if you wanted to “check” it, but otherwise just a gun pointed at our heads.
I’m not educated in the maritime engineering or actual operations of a sub is why I ask.
The reason I’m asking is that I think we are at the very beginning of unmanned weapons making warfare much more deadly, rapid and limited only by resources and imagination.
I’m not saying that man on the ground killing another man is going to stop, I’m just saying that augmented soldiers will be more deadly and tip the scales in the favor of technology. Exo-skeletons, small lethal drones, small insect like probes for real time sound and video, instead of bombs maybe hundreds of small self directed munitions that are released etc.
I am sure if I thought about it, the really smart guys in the DOD are thinking about it also.
Rule #1 for reading press reports of new Russian weapons;
They always have magical capabilities, defying the laws of physics.
The damage that Walker did was significant, but in the Toshiba-Kongsberg incident, no specifically United States goods or technology was involved - only the equipment of western partner nations that should've known better.
I'm sure that Clinton did far worse than the Walker spy ring (The Loral (MIRV) tech to China alone is equivalent), but I've never heard of further naval technology flowing to the Russians during Bubba's tenure. If you have the details, please educate me.
As for Bush (41, I presume), most of this stuff was in the rear-view mirror by 1989. The spies were caught and punished while Reagan was in office, but by the time investigators knew what damage had been done, it was too late to focus on certain industrial exports. The Soviets already had the multi-axis machining tools they needed to quiet their subs.
They can't communicate in real time through the sea, though it is possible to give them very short, encoded instruction via VLF down to about 100ft.
Sub looks like an old Delta.
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