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Russia's A-10 Warthog: Why the Su-25 Frogfoot Is a Flying Tank
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| 26 Aug 2016
| Sebastien Roblin
Posted on 08/27/2016 7:24:01 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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Warthogsky?
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:24:01 PM PDT
by
DUMBGRUNT
To: DUMBGRUNT
I remember reading when Erich Hartmann tried to shoot down his first Stormovik. He was surprised to see the bullets bounce off and the rear gunner almost got him.
Some of the experienced pilots told him you had to approach them from the rear and below. The Stormoviks typically flew really low just to guard against that.
I think it was the original flying tank.
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:32:18 PM PDT
by
yarddog
(Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
To: yarddog
Not as buff as the Wathog but looks like the proverbial brick fire hydrant.
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:43:14 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Never Trump=Always hiLIARy)
To: freedumb2003
Look at the beefed-up undercarriage on that thing. It could land on a patch of dirt (and frequently did)
It is also said to carry a toolkit for in-field service and repairs.
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:46:34 PM PDT
by
coydog
(Time to feed the pigs!)
To: DUMBGRUNT
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:52:30 PM PDT
by
gaijin
To: freedumb2003
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:54:34 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
To: freedumb2003
Hartmann had to crash land his plane his first two times in combat. This was on the Steppes of Russia. He thought you only bailed out if both wings fell off and the plane was on fire.
He went on the shoot down 352 Russian planes confirmed and probably double that in actuality.
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posted on
08/27/2016 7:56:58 PM PDT
by
yarddog
(Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
To: gaijin
That was fun, and the comments ‘interesting’.
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posted on
08/27/2016 8:06:49 PM PDT
by
DUMBGRUNT
(Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
To: freedumb2003; yarddog; coydog; gaijin
I have owned several Russian weapons - rifles and pistols of both modern and historic vintages.
I can attest to their being not necessarily “glamorous” but built with “substance.” Kind of like Timex watches - they “keep a linking and keep on ticking.”
I think it’s a preoccupation of all Russian designers.
< /johncameronswayze >
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posted on
08/27/2016 8:08:06 PM PDT
by
shibumi
(I am the Nexus One I want more life Muthah I ain't done *~)
To: DUMBGRUNT
What’s interesting was that the Soviet design requirement for what became the Su-25 came out within one year of the same USAF requirement for a low-flying, highly-maneuverable, and heavily armed ground attack plane. The USAF got the A-10, and the Soviets got the Su-25. Both were designed for one mission: low altitude interdiction of armored vehicles, including tanks.
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posted on
08/27/2016 8:12:39 PM PDT
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: RayChuang88
They say that great minds think alike; so do idiots.
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posted on
08/27/2016 8:15:08 PM PDT
by
DUMBGRUNT
(Looks like it's pretty hairy.)
To: freedumb2003; yarddog; coydog; gaijin
I just re-read my post #9.
I think I better quit posting for tonight.
(”Keep a linking?????”)
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posted on
08/27/2016 8:19:11 PM PDT
by
shibumi
(I am the Nexus One I want more life Muthah I ain't done *~)
To: DUMBGRUNT
Unlike the U.S. Air Force in the 1960s, which was enamored with the concept of winning nuclear wars with strategic bombers,I just read "The Revolt of the Admirals" speaking to this topic. I am glad our ground pounders got cover in the form of the A10 and Naval aviation.
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posted on
08/27/2016 9:06:36 PM PDT
by
llevrok
(Lies are born the moment someone thinks the truth is dangerous.)
To: shibumi
They never called their neat little machine pistol a Krinkov. It was the Okurok, or ‘cigarette butt’.
Bet it was a fun to fire and keep on target. Believe that was another name for it, ‘little bitch’. Can’t recall the Russian name.
I’ve read their tanks, the T34 particularly would rattle your bones.
I like AKs too.
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posted on
08/27/2016 9:20:06 PM PDT
by
tumblindice
(America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
To: DUMBGRUNT
CAS planes have had a bigger impact on the battlefield than any other plane in history. It’s shame the US air force hates them. We should have a ground controlled cheap CAS drone for every unit out there but the air force hates the idea.
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posted on
08/27/2016 9:32:18 PM PDT
by
RedWulf
(Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
To: UCANSEE2
That’s a lot of hard points.
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posted on
08/27/2016 9:49:00 PM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
To: RayChuang88
"
Whats interesting was that the Soviet design requirement for what became the Su-25 came out within one year of the same USAF requirement for a low-flying, highly-maneuverable, and heavily armed ground attack plane. The USAF got the A-10, and the Soviets got the Su-25. Both were designed for one mission: low altitude interdiction of armored vehicles, including tanks."
The Frogfoot is virtually a carbon copy of the losing contender of that AX competition, Northrop's YA-9. Some have accused the Soviets of stealing the design (via espionage), but I think it was just a matter of similar thinking in the design process. The Soviets just liked Northrop's design philosophy better. I always thought the Navy should have adopted the YA-9 to sea service as they did with the YF-17. They've needed a real dedicated ground pounder for years.
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posted on
08/27/2016 10:25:12 PM PDT
by
DesScorp
To: DUMBGRUNT
US supported the wrong side.
To: RayChuang88
Actually I think the A-10 was specifically designed by the tank busting role, while the Su-25 was developed for close air support, thought there is a tank buster version.
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posted on
08/28/2016 12:52:19 AM PDT
by
Jacob Kell
(Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history, Obama is the yellow stain in front)
To: shibumi
Agreed. Not refined - however, very reliable.
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posted on
08/28/2016 3:09:40 AM PDT
by
indcons
(Blue Lives Matter.)
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