Posted on 10/14/2016 9:15:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Most of them will be radioactive wastelands soon so Im not worried. /sarc (kinda?)
Actuallyt, 20 one megaton such “urban renewal” projects at necessary locations worldwide would work just fine.
Only if Russia nukes cairo, jakarta and karachi
In America, Democrats pay people to feed, breed and vote, nothing more...... what could possibly go wrong?!?
West of the Rockies: San Diego, San Pedro, Alameda, Bremerton, Pearl Harbor, Beale, Vandenberg, JPL, Edwards, 29 Palms, Oceanside, Forts Irwin and Lewis.
I remember as a child in elementary school in the 60’s we were being taught that by this time in our future the whole west coast from L.A. to Seattle was going to be a huge super city.
Your point is valid. “The U. S. Army is incapable of operating in mega cities.” Wrong.
It may be incapable of holding and governing said cities, at least within rules of engagement that are currently acceptable to the delicate sensibilities of our effete leadership. But siege has reduced even the hardest targets since the Bronze Age.
And the Air Force can always operate OVER said mega-targets.
We also need to get over the idea that if we break it, we bought it, i.e. We need to pay to rebuild these crap holes after we make their rubble bounce around.
I’ve figured this is where it is all heading. Even if you do not believe in God you need to have morality, decency, ethics, discipline, kindness and rule-of-law to enjoy any measure of peace. We have less and less of these all the time.
None of these things are fostered by obongo or hittlery, certainly the demonrats and most of republicans.
The Army is not capable of cordoning large dense urban areas. That was the point of the report referred to in the article.
Your suggestions of siege and the Air Force bombing said mega-targets into the Stone Age, along with the attendant civilian fatalities is not palatable.
‘Pod.
I’ve read about this. It’s FUD from the Pentagon to boost budgets and launch new technology initiatives for more toys. The thrust of the presentation is “megacities are becoming a thing, and pretty soon we’re going to have to fight in one”. Then they go on to postulate the very worst-case scenario of not only having to fight a modern-day Leningrad, but to do so on multiple levels at once in a major population center that may have several competing power centers.
The presentation is NOT intended focus on these dystopian megacities as the main concern, but rather on what they might have to deal with, worst-case, in the event a war requires the Army to try to fight their way through Delhi or Los Angeles.
Why don’t you do a little homework first before spouting off such garbage?
Go check out the studies the McKinsey Institute has done in forecasting future urban growth.
That’s just one source. There are hundreds.
Which part of what I said was “garbage”? The Pentagon presentations *are* FUD, intended for increasing budget. I never said cities aren’t going to get bigger, or that any component mentioned won’t exist in those newly-minted megacities. In reality, I don’t think these presentations go far enough, because a megacity isn’t just a bigger city; there are going to be technological, societal and cultural frameworks and developments in megacities that can’t be anticipated, and that those developments will radically change the landscape a warfighter will have to deal with in trying to fight their way through such a city.
My points are that first, the presentations are not some secret conspiracy theory coded warning that megacities are what the Trilateral Commission and the Build-a-burgers have planned for us poor serfs (as the tone of the headline implies), and second, the challenges in the presentation are deliberately amplified for the purpose of scaring some congressional committee into allocating more money for weapons and technology development.
Not their responsibility.
Citizens responsibility. If they know their place and let The People clean house, we are well armed and know what a polite society is, we can clean up the messes and they can keep being global govt lackeys elsewhere.
“They’ll also enable a proliferation of “digital domains”
HEH HEH, This already EXISTS. It is called the “DARK WEB”, a subnet of the “DEEP WEB”. The deep web, invisible web, or hidden web are parts of the World Wide Web whose contents are not indexed by standard search engines for any reason. 6% of the WEB is accessed by the average person. To access the rest one needs a “Tor Browser”.
SargeK is correct, a cordon sanitaire of a mega city is possible once you abandon the idea of governing such.
Historic example in my life time was the cordoning off of Washington DC and the dense suburban area inside the beltway during the MLK riots. National Guard units and Maryland State Police used the physical barrier of the limited access beltway and control points at exits and entrances. Virtual pickets 10-20 miles beyond the beltway checked inbound traffic from points north. The Potomac river crossings were controlled as well. The only Federal troops were Airborne units stationed around the White House and Capitol, might have been the 173rd. APCs and jeeps with pintle mounted machine guns were part of the internal ring surrounding the Federal zone.
So it really didn’t require a large force to quickly lock the city down while the denizens looted, burned, and sought paybacks in the city.
I was stranded in Virginia for 3 nights, unable to reach home in NE DC. First afternoon we in the office watched the columns of smoke rising over the city from our top floor. The view to the SE was the Iwo Jima Memorial.
Granted, Metro DC area was just under the 10 million description, nevertheless it was done quickly and efficiently with a minimal amount of troops and equipment. I have no idea what other units were prepared to join in should the need have arisen.
Didn’t know the term BUG-Out-Bag at the time, but that’s what I assembled for the trunk of my car afterwards.
Make it 40. Doesn’t hurt to bounce the rubble at least once.
Try cordoning off the LA metro area.
Includes the city of LA and surrounding dense urban area.
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